Oct 20, 2025 Special Called Board Meeting

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OCTOBER 20TH, 2025. THIS MEETING OF THE KEENE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. THE FOLLOWING TRUSTEES ARE PRESENT AND PARTICIPATING. SUSAN JONES, VICE PRESIDENT. BRENDA ADAMS, SECRETARY MARVIN RAINWATER, BOARD MEMBER OLIVER MINTZ, BOARD MEMBER TINA CAPUTO, BOARD MEMBER RODNEY GILCHRIST, BOARD MEMBER. AND ME, BRETT WILLIAMS, PRESIDENT AND PRESIDING OFFICER. FOR THE RECORD, A QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND IS PRESENT AS A REMINDER. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC FORUM MUST SUBMIT THEIR SIGN UP SHEET AT THIS TIME. A RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS BEING MADE AND WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT A LATER DATE. WE'RE ALSO STREAMING THIS MEETING ON OUR

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THE BOARD WILL NOT HEAR COMMENTS FROM THOSE WHO'VE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. BOARD.

BOARD. PER BOARD POLICY, EACH PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. I WILL ASK THE AUDIENCE TO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ANY PUBLIC OUTBURSTS AND TO MAINTAIN DECORUM. PARENTS, EMPLOYEES AND CITIZENS ARE ENCOURAGED TO UTILIZE THE DISTRICT'S GRIEVANCE PROCESS TO THE FULLEST EXTENT POSSIBLE. RELATED POLICY. POLICIES ARE AVAILABLE ON THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE OR UPON REQUEST. FOR THE RECORD, WE ASK THAT ALL PUBLIC FORUM PARTICIPANTS BEGIN BY STATING THEIR NAME AND THE CITY IN WHICH THEY RESIDE. ONCE COMPLETE, YOUR THREE MINUTES WILL BEGIN. SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I HAVE KATIE ANDERSON. WELCOME.

AMOS ANDERSON I STAY HERE IN KILLEEN. GOOD AFTERNOON. BOARD. LIKE I SAID, MY NAME IS KATIE ANDERSON AND I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A CONCERNED GRANDPARENT AND A DISABLED MEMBER IN THIS COMMUNITY. I'M ALSO SOMEONE WHO STILL BELIEVES IN THE POWER OF SCHOOLS TO BUILD TRUST AND RESPECT BETWEEN FAMILIES AND EDUCATORS. BUT LATELY, THAT TRUST HAS BEEN DEEPLY SHAKEN.

AFTER MY GRAND SON MOTHER MADE A COMPLAINT, SHE FACED RETALIATION. HE DID ALSO. NO FAMILY SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR THEIR SPEAKING UP FOR THEIR CHILD. WE SHOULD BE PARTNERS WITH SCHOOLS. NO TARGETS OF HOSTILITY. AS FOR ME, I'M DISABLED WAITING A TRIPLE ORGAN TRANSPLANT. EVEN SIMPLE TASK WAS NOT EASY FOR ME. YET WHEN I CAME TO THE SCHOOL, WHICH IS REESE CREEK ELEMENTARY. INSTEAD OF BEING TREATED WITH COMPASSION, I WAS HARASSED AND BELITTLED WHILE GOING THROUGH THE METAL DETECTORS. I WAS MADE TO FEEL LIKE A THREAT RATHER THAN A PARENT. AND A GRANDPARENT WHO SIMPLY WANTED TO SUPPORT MY CHILD'S EDUCATION.

AND THEN I RECEIVED A TRESPASSING WARNING LETTER. FOR WHAT? FOR SHOWING AND CARING.

I'M NOT STANDING HERE BECAUSE I WANT THE BOARD TO HEAR WHAT I WANT. I'M STANDING HERE BECAUSE I WANT THE BOARD TO HEAR WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE ON THE RECEIVING END OF THIS, THAT TREATMENT. SOMETHING I WANT TO SAY AS A PARENT. I'M A GOOD PARENT. I HAVE A DAUGHTER. SHE GRADUATED IN 2024. SHE GETS HER ASSOCIATE. SHE GRADUATED FROM ELLISON. I HAVE A CHILD NOW, A SENIOR AT ELLISON. SHE GRADUATES. SHE ALSO GET HER SHE GRADUATES AND GET A ASSOCIATE.

THE GRANDPARENT OF THIS, MY GRANDSON, SHE HAS HER BACHELOR'S AND SHE'S TRYING TO GET HER MASTERS. THIS IS EXPECTED IN MY HOUSEHOLD. RESPECT. DO WHAT YOU'RE TOLD. I CHALLENGE ANYONE OF Y'ALL, GO TO ANY OF MY PAST KIDS TEACHERS AND ASK THEM WHAT KIND OF CHILD THEY ARE. BUT THEY GET BELITTLED LIKE I DID. WAS UNACCEPTABLE. AND FOR THE BOARD, YOUR BOARD MEMBERS, TO SIT AND LET GOOD PARENTS LIKE MYSELF BE DONE LIKE THAT. WE VOTED FOR Y'ALL. SO WE CAN VOTE Y'ALL OUT. THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. NOBODY. DON'T NOBODY WANT TO DO THE JOB.

FIND SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT. THAT'S HOW I. THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE PAST THIS BECAUSE I DID MY JOB AS A PARENT. Y'ALL. I NEED Y'ALL. Y'ALL. THANK Y'ALL.

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VERY NICE. YOU APPRECIATE YOU INVITING ME TO DO THIS TODAY AND SENDS HIS REGARDS. WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH. COMMUNITY. YES, WE'VE GOT, BUT PICK US UP. OKAY. SOME OF YOU MET MY TRAVELING COMPANION TODAY. MY WIFE WROTE DOWN WITH ME TODAY. AND SO SHE IS THE INSURANCE THAT THIS WILL NOT GO TOO LATE. BECAUSE SHE'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER THERE, I THINK, WHERE DIANA HAS PUT HER. AND ARE WE OKAY? YEAH. IS THIS WORK? SO I CAN'T I DON'T NEED TO WALK AROUND TOO MUCH. OKAY. IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE MIC, THE RECORDING AT HOME. OKAY, WELL, LET'S SEE. I'M SAYING I'LL TRY TO. I MAY SIT DOWN. I'VE GOT A BILL TO KIND OF SEE THE SEE THE SLIDES, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW THIS WORKS. IS THAT IS THAT OKAY? YES. I PROMISE YOU THAT I'M NOT, THAT IT WILL NOT BE SOMETHING THAT IT'S MISSED, THAT ANYBODY WILL BE REAL CONCERNED ABOUT.

THIS IS A TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING SESSION. IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT IS THIS ABOUT SOME OF YOU Y'ALL ALREADY DONE THIS BEFORE. YOU'RE AN EXPERIENCED BOARD, BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE USED TO DO BOARD TRAINING WHEN BOARD MEMBERS WOULD GO TO TO TASB AND THEY WOULD HAVE ALL THESE BREAKOUT SESSIONS, AND ONE BOARD MEMBER MIGHT GO TO PERSONNEL TRAINING, ONE MIGHT GO TO SCHOOL FINANCE TRAINING, ONE MIGHT GO TO ASBESTOS REMOVAL TRAINING, ONE MIGHT GO TO SOMETHING ELSE. AND THEY HAD A PRETTY GOOFY COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION ONCE UPON A TIME THAT SAID, WHY ARE WE DOING IT LIKE THIS? WHY DON'T WE HAVE PEOPLE TRAINED TO WORK TOGETHER INSTEAD OF JUST EVERYBODY GO OUT AND DO THEIR OWN THING? AND SO IF YOU'RE WONDERING, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING? WELL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PERSON TO BLAME FOR IT BECAUSE WE WE HAD A PART OF THE STATUTE PASSED THAT SAID WE'LL DO TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING SO THE BOARD CAN TALK WITH EACH OTHER AND WORK ON THINGS THAT ARE OF MUTUAL INTEREST TO YOU, INSTEAD OF KIND OF JUST OUT HERE IN SILOS, SHOOTING ARROWS ALL OVER THE PLACE. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE GOT INTO TEAM DEBATE, I DON'T KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET A VIDEO? ARE WE READY TO ROLL JUST LIKE THIS? JUST BRING UP THAT FIRST VIDEO. THIS IS JUST TO KEEP US FROM GETTING BORED HERE. IMAGINE THE AWESOMEST THING YOU CAN. LIKE AN AUTOMATIC GRILLED CHEESE MAKER, OR A TIME MACHINE, OR A TIME MACHINE WITH AN AUTOMATIC GRILLED CHEESE MAKER. NOW IMAGINE WHO'S GOING TO INVENT IT. HIM GLASSES HERE, WHOEVER THEY ARE. OR MAYBE HER. BUT HOW DO KIDS LIKE THESE BECOME THE TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT DO THINGS LIKE THIS? MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK THIS GUY. KNOWLEDGE IS HEAVY. SOMETIMES IT'S A LIMIT TO TO HAVE NEW IDEAS. THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE OLD SCHOOLING, BECAUSE THEY WERE TEACHING US. I BELIEVE QUESTIONS ARE PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANT TODAY THAN THE ANSWERS. ERNAUX CUBE IS A QUESTION WAITING TO BE ANSWERED, AND WHEN THE RIGHT PERSON FINDS THE RIGHT QUESTION, SOMETHING AMAZING HAPPENS. THEY START SEEING THE WORLD AS IT TRULY IS NOT A PLACE TO BE MEMORIZED, BUT A PLACE TO BE FIGURED OUT, FLIPPED, TURNED TWISTED, AND ULTIMATELY MADE BETTER FOREVER. TODAY, SHE MAY BE AN OCTOPUS, BUT HELP KIDS LIKE HER FALL IN LOVE WITH PROBLEM SOLVING AND THEY WILL EMBARK ON JOURNEYS TO BECOME SCIENTISTS, ARTISTS, ENGINEERS, DESIGNERS, INVENTORS OR SOMETHING NO ONE'S EVER BEEN BEFORE. BUT YOU CAN BET WE'RE GOING TO NEED. THAT'S WHY MOMENTS LIKE THIS GO. AND THIS AND THIS AND ESPECIALLY THIS ARE SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE ARE COMPANIES TO FOUND, PLANETS TO WALK ON, TIME, MACHINES TO

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AND SOME WOULD SAY MAYBE BETTER, BUT BUT THAT THE TRUST, YOUR TRUST THAT YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN IS IMPORTANT. AND THE LIVES OF THE KIDS AND THE LIVES AND THEIR FUTURES IS A IS A BIG DEAL. AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT LITTLE VIDEO FROM TEXAS INSTRUMENTS, BECAUSE IT KIND OF GETS A GETS A LITTLE REMINDER THAT THIS IS THIS IS A BIG IMPACT DEAL. IMAGINE THE AWESOMEST THING YOU CAN GET OUT OF HERE. IN A WORD, HOW YOU FEELING? HOW YOU FEELING TONIGHT? RIGHT NOW A LITTLE TIRED, BUT OVERALL GOOD. POSITIVE. ALRIGHT, GREAT. TINA, IN A WORD, HOW ARE YOU FEELING? ALRIGHT, SUSAN. GOOD DAY. ALRIGHT. I SAW A GUY TODAY, 85 YEARS OLD TODAY IN A ASSISTED LIVING AND I WENT TO SEE HIS BIRTHDAY TODAY, THIS MORNING IN DALLAS AND OUT IN PLANO. AND HE SAID IT'S A GREAT DAY TO BE ALIVE. GOOD FOR YOU. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING, BRANT? WHAT YOU'RE ENDURING. KING. INSPIRE. OKAY. GRATEFUL. THAT'S IT.

THAT'S A GOOD WORD. PRETTY MUCH. GOT IT. I'M EXCITED. EXCITED. I LIKE THAT TOO. ENERGETIC.

EXCITED. ENTHUSIASTIC. I'D SAY FRUSTRATED. FRUSTRATED. LITTLE FRUSTRATED. YEAH. OKAY. WORK ON.

MAYBE WE CAN WORK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. HOW Y'ALL DOING? WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE BOARD? HOW DO YOU THINK THE BOARD'S DOING RIGHT NOW? HOW DO YOU THINK Y'ALL AS A BOARD AS A CORPORATE BOARD ARE DOING? ANYBODY WANT TO SHARE WITH ME? I WOULD SAY EVOLVING OKAY. PRETTY GOOD DYNAMICS PEOPLE OKAY. I'M NOT GRADING PAPERS. I'M. I THIS IS ONE THAT I'M, I GUESS I'M PRETTY SURE THAT I'M PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT IS I THINK IT'S A BOARD THAT IS EXTREMELY TALENTED. BUT TALENT ONLY TAKES YOU SO FAR. YOU'VE GOT TO BE POSITIONED AND EVERYBODY'S GOT TO UNDERSTAND THE ASSIGNMENTS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE WHAT YOU WHAT IS YOUR MAXIMUM POTENTIAL. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? I THINK IT'S A TIME OF REDEFINING A ROLE. AND I THINK IT'S A TIME OF I THINK IT'S A TIME OF REDEFINING OUR ROLES AND OUR GOALS AS A BOARD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WELL WE'RE YOU'RE ABOUT TO SOMETIME HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN NOT ASSUMING OR

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CAN ALWAYS ABOUT CHARTER SCHOOLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND, AND I, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN OF THE PREMISE THAT WE NEED NOT WORRY ABOUT THEM. WE JUST NEED TO BE THE BEST CHOICE, AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO ELEVATE THEM IN THEIR CAREERS IN THE NEXT GENERATION, GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ALWAYS GET IN CHARTER SCHOOLS, THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET NECESSARILY IN SMALL COUNTRY SCHOOLS. WE AS A DISTRICT ARE LARGE, SO OUR BREAK EVEN POINT IS A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN MOST PLACES. SO WE CAN OFFER PROGRAMS OF INNOVATION AND EARLY COLLEGE, HIGH SCHOOL AND THE CAREER CENTER, WHICH IS JUST BOMB DIGGITY, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WE JUST HAVE TO BE AWARE AND AND RESEARCH, I GUESS, AND JUST BE OPEN MINDED TO WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE. AND THEN I THINK WHAT MY GOAL WOULD BE IS THAT WE INCREASE OUR GRADUATION RATE. AND I HATE THIS FIVE YEAR, SIX YEAR GRADUATION RATE THING. I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY KIDS GRADUATE AT THE END OF FOUR YEARS IN HIGH SCHOOL. AND FROM THAT BENCHMARK INCREASE IT. YOU KNOW, X, YOU KNOW, A FEW POINTS EVERY YEAR UNTIL WE CAN HAVE 98% OF OUR STUDENTS GRADUATING AT THEIR FOUR YEAR MARK. THAT WOULD BE WHAT SUSAN JONES GOAL WOULD BE. I HAVE ASPIRATIONS I'D ALSO LIKE.

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I'VE SEEN CHAOS IN THE BOARDROOM. AND IT CAN BE AND IT AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THE BOARDROOM DOES DOES GO TO THE CLASSROOM CHAOS IN THE BOARDROOM. AND I'M NOT SAYING Y'ALL HAD CHAOS. DALLAS HAD CHAOS. BUT IF YOU'VE HAD THINGS THAT YOU THINK HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE WRONG MESSAGING, THEN YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT. YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT BECAUSE TEACHERS, PRINCIPALS, SCHOOL PEOPLE DO FOLLOW THE BOARD AND THE BOARD'S LEAD AND THE SUPERINTENDENTS LEAD. THEY REALLY DO. THEY KEY OFF OF THE LEADERSHIP, THE KEY OFF THE DISTRICT LEADERSHIP. AND IF THE THE DISTRICT LEADERSHIP IS ORGANIZED, THOUGHTFUL PLAN AND STAYS AT THE POLICY LEVEL AT A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL STUFF TO MAKE THE DISTRICT BETTER, PEOPLE WILL GET BEHIND THAT AND MOMENTUM WILL BE GAINED. YOU WILL GET TRACTION ON THAT. WHAT ARE YOU DOING RIGHT NOW? WHAT'S THE DISTRICT DOING RIGHT NOW THAT REALLY PLEASES YOU? WHAT IS HE SAYING? THIS BOY, WE ARE WE ARE KNOCKING IT OUT OF THE PARK ON THIS. WHAT? WHAT COMES TO MIND? ANYTHING THAT YOU JUST. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S. ANYTHING IN EARLY CHILDHOOD OR WHAT. WHAT? YES, SIR. SIR, OUR DISTRICT IS TRYING VERY, VERY HARD TO PRESENT THE CORRECT CURRICULUM THAT OUR STUDENTS NEED. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ENERGY PASSED ON ESSENTIAL TO THE CLASSROOM. OKAY. AND SO. SO YOU WILL DO.

STRUCTURING TO MAKE THAT WORK. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT'S EXCITING TO ME. GREAT. YEAH.

THE STANDARDS MATTER LEARNING AND THE THIS COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION IS BIG ON WHAT IS THE.

WHAT'S IN THE CONTENT. WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS. AND THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD PLACE TO FOCUS AND TO STAY TUNED IN TO WHAT ELSE. WHAT ELSE DO YOU THINK WE'RE REALLY DOING WELL HERE, TIM? I THINK THAT WE ARE REALLY DOING WELL AT RECRUITING MORE CERTIFIED TEACHERS AND GETTING OUR CLASSROOMS FILLED, BUT ALSO THE ROBUST AMOUNT OF PROGRAMING THAT WE HAVE, NOT JUST SPORTS, BUT FINE ARTS AND DIFFERENT THE CAREER CENTER AND JUST DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER OUR STUDENTS. AND SO I THINK WE'RE DOING WELL WITH THOSE. THAT'S SUPER, YOU KNOW, YOU THAT THAT TEACHER AVAILABILITY AND THAT BATTLE FOR TALENT. DID I GIVE YOU THE NUMBERS. HAVE I GIVEN YOU THE NUMBERS BEFORE. WELL, YOU WE HAVE ABOUT 370,000 TEACHERS IN TEXAS, MAYBE 380 EVERY YEAR. WE USED TO LOSE ABOUT 40,000 TEACHERS A YEAR. WHEN I WAS

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I'M PLEASED THAT WE ARE STRIVING TO RECOGNIZE AND HIGHLIGHT CELEBRATE STUDENT SUCCESS, STUDENT PARTICIPATION, STUDENT INVOLVEMENT ACROSS THE SPECTRUM, NOT JUST ACADEMICALLY FINE ARTS, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS SOCIAL MEDIA. SO WE'RE KEEPING THE FOCUS ON THE MAIN THING, WHICH IS KIDS EXCELLING AT WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO AND WHAT THEY'RE GOOD AT. I SAW SOME OF YOUR RECOGNITIONS AT THE MEETING, AT THE LAST MEETING, AND WE WERE AND I WATCHED ONE WATCH ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS. ONE NIGHT ON ON WHATEVER THEY WERE ON THE STREAM OR WHATEVER. BUT YEAH, I THINK Y'ALL ARE DOING THAT. I THINK YOU WANT TO BE SURE YOU'RE FOCUSING AGAIN ON EXCELLENCE. YOU KNOW, I, I, I WANT TO HONOR TEACHERS AND ESPECIALLY HONOR STUDENTS, BUT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS. IT IS REALLY NOTEWORTHY FOR YOU.

COME TO THE BOARD. I'M GOING TO BE KIND OF WE'LL GET A LITTLE OFF HERE. BUT WE USED TO HAVE A TEACHER OF THE YEAR PROGRAMS, AND IT WAS KIND OF IT'S MY TURN TO BE TEACHING YOU. IT'S YOUR TURN TO BE TEACHING THIS NATION'S TERTIARY TEACHING EXCELLENCE, AND EVERYBODY GETS TO BE TEACHER OF THE YEAR, AND EVERYBODY GETS AND AND THEN THE BOARD NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE EVERYBODY. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT YOUR MEETINGS OUGHT TO BE. YOUR MEETINGS OUGHT TO BE RESERVED FOR REALLY, REALLY, REALLY BIG STUFF. BIG STUFF. AND THERE OUGHT TO BE RECOGNITIONS, BUT IT OUGHT TO BE, IF IT'S EVERYBODY AND I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT PASSING JUDGMENT ON WHAT YOU'VE DONE OR WHO YOU'VE DONE, BUT BUT I WOULD HOPE YOUR MEETINGS ARE SUCH THAT THIS BOARD, THE CLEAN ISD BOARD, RECOGNIZES SOMEBODY. EVERYBODY SAYS, WOW, THAT WAS REALLY BIG STUFF. THEY SOMEBODY REALLY KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK. WHAT ELSE ARE YOU ANYBODY ELSE REALLY, REALLY HAPPY ABOUT? EXCITED ABOUT. OKAY, FLIP IT OVER. WHAT DO YOU WHAT DOES IT SAY UP THERE. WHAT'S OF CONCERN. WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS. SO I THINK I'M

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CONGRATULATIONS. YOU'RE SPECIAL AND YOU GOT PROBLEMS JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. SO I THINK WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THE BOARD, I JUST FELT THAT IT WAS THERE WAS NEVER ANY KIND OF QUESTIONING.

AND WE JUST KIND OF WERE ROLLING ALONG AND THERE SEEMED TO BE, AGAIN, NO DISSATISFACTION WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS FAR OPPOSITE FROM EXCELLENCE. SO THIS BOARD AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND MY ROLE AND I DO A LOT OF IT IS KIND OF BEING A LITTLE BIT COMBATIVE AND PUSHING BACK AND ASKING QUESTIONS AND HAVING A PART IN BOARD MEETINGS THAT GO TO 1 A.M. I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO KIND OF COME AROUND THE CORNER OF THE CIRCLE WHERE CHANGE IS OKAY, CONFLICT IS OKAY, WE RESPECT EACH OTHER. BUT BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT RIGHT. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE HAVE THAT TEARING AND AND KIND OF WRESTLING WITH IDEAS. WELL NOW I THINK WE'RE COMING AROUND A CORNER WHERE WE, WE NEED, WE'VE KIND OF GOT TO GET BACK TO WHAT'S NORM A NORM AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S HEALTHY. WE NEED SOME LEADERSHIP THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT I THINK STRUCTURALLY, WE'VE DONE SOME OF THE GROUNDWORK TO ALLOW US TO GROW. AND I NEVER FELT THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE. SO I'M PLEASED THAT WE'RE DOING IT. I'M CONCERNED THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING AS FAST AS I WOULD LIKE, BUT BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT THAT TAKES TIME TO DO SO.

I HEAR YOU AND I WOULD I WOULD CONCUR THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE. A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFICULTY, MAYBE SOME PUSHING AND SHOVING. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SUSTAIN THAT FOR A LONG TIME, BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE WILL LEAVE IF THEY THINK AGAIN THAT THE BOARDROOM CAN'T EVER FIND A PLACE TO SETTLE OUT. I THINK IT'S HARD TO KEEP TEACHERS. IT'S HARD TO KEEP PRINCIPALS, HARD TO KEEP LEADERS. I THINK I THINK YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE SOME TOUGH, TOUGH, COURAGEOUS DISCUSSIONS SOMETIMES. BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL AND VERY PICKY ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT. I THINK YOU SAID KIND OF KEEPING THE THE BIG PROBLEMS, RIGHT. SO I WROTE DOWN THREE THINGS THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, POLICY, ATTITUDE AND CLIMATE. I DON'T REALLY LIKE THE WORD ATTITUDE. SO I THINK WE CAN JUST STICK WITH POLICY AND CLIMATE. WHAT KIND OF CLIMATE DO WE WANT IN A CLIMATE OF CONSTANT CONFLICT IS NOT GOOD.

AND THEN YOU KIND OF YOU GO DOWN TO THE NEXT LEVEL WITH THE SOUP. WELL, THE SOUP SHOULD KIND OF MIRROR WHAT THE BOARD IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. RIGHT. AND IF THE BOARD IS CONSTANTLY IN CONFLICT, THAT PUTS THE SOUP CONSTANTLY IN CONFLICT. AND THEN THAT PUTS THE SUBORDINATE STAFF CONSTANTLY IN CONFLICT. SO I THINK WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD AND I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT IS GET THESE MEETINGS TIGHTER, STICK ON THE HIGH LEVEL THINGS, TALK ABOUT PROBLEMS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE MEETING SO THAT WE CAN WORK THAT STUFF OUT. AND I THINK WITH THAT CALMING THAT, WITH THAT KIND OF STEADYING RIGHT HOLDING THE RUDDER STEADY, WE HAVE A LEADER THAT CAN DO THAT. I THINK THAT KIND OF BEGINS TO TRICKLE DOWN, BUT WE'VE GOT TO EXPECT IT CAN'T BE THE BOARD GOING, YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE EXCELLENT. BE GOOD. DAMN IT.

LIKE YOU KNOW AND THAT DOESN'T WORK RIGHT. SO I THINK WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO KIND OF BUILD THAT CULTURE THAT THE BOARD IS WORKING HARD, THAT WE HAVE LEADERS THAT REFLECT THAT AND THAT WE SHOULD EXPECT THAT. I MEAN, I WAS IN THE ARMY UNITS. IT WASN'T LIKE, OH MAN, SORRY, CAN'T DO THAT. WELL, YOU GOTTA DO THAT, RIGHT. AND YOU'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT AND DO IT WELL. AND I JUST I HOPE THAT WE, WE GET DOWN THAT ROAD AND I THINK Y'ALL CAN BUT BUT I DO THINK YOU HAVE TO WORK AT IT IN A IN AGAIN AND HAVE SOME AND MAYBE TOUGH DISCUSSIONS MAYBE, AS I SAY, COURAGEOUS DISCUSSIONS. BUT THEY HAVE TO END UP IN A CONSTRUCTIVE PLACE. CAN'T STAY, CAN'T STAY DESTRUCTIVE I DO WORRY AND AND I DID WHEN I WAS IN DALLAS, I DID WHEN I WAS IN LUBBOCK, I WANTED THAT I WANTED TO HAVE FRANK DISCUSSIONS, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT. WHAT OUR TEACHERS SAW AND WHAT OUR, OUR STAFF SAW WAS THAT WE WE WOUND UP, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME DISAGREEMENTS, BUT WE WOUND UP AT A PLACE WHERE WE WERE GOING

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AND YOU HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO JUST PROMOTE GROUPTHINK THAT WE ALL GOT TO COME TOGETHER AND ALL GOTTA THINK TOGETHER. WE ALL GOT TO RAISE YOUR HAND AND VOTE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS THIS DEBATE SHOULD OUR BOARD OR ANONYMOUS OR I MEAN, NOT ANONYMOUS, BUT OUR UNANIMOUS VOTES DESIRABLE. ANOTHER. DALLAS MORNING NEWS EDITORIAL.

SECOND LARGEST NEWSPAPER IN TEXAS. CALL AND SAY, HEY, MIKE, COME DOWN HERE. I KNEW HIM, I KNEW HIM FROM WHEN I'D BEEN & COMMISSIONER. SO I WENT DOWN THERE TO SEE. HANK TATUM. AND BURL OSBORNE WAS THE PUBLISHER AND SAW ALL THESE PEOPLE. THEY GOT UP THERE AND SAID, HEY, MAN, THIS BOARD IS KEEPING US FROM HAVING ECONOMIC GROWTH. I SAID, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I SAID, WELL, WE WERE IN COMPETITION FOR A $2 BILLION COMPANY WITH ABOUT 2000 JOBS WITH ATLANTA AND ATLANTA, GEORGIA. THEIR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TOOK VIDEOS OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS AND USED THEM IN A VIDEO TO SHOW THE COMPANY AND USED THEM AGAINST US. AND WE LOST THE COMPANY AND WE LOST ALL THOSE EMPLOYEES. AND YOU GUYS ARE TERRIBLE AND GO, YOU NEED TO GO DOWN AND GET WITH THE BOARD, AND Y'ALL NEED TO GET YOUR MEETINGS PULLED TOGETHER, NEED TO GET THEM BETTER ORGANIZED. YOU NEED TO GET THEM IN, GET THEM WHERE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T SEE CONSTANT STRIFE. AND YOU NEED TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. MIKE. WELL, WE ROCKED ALONG THERE FOR ABOUT 2 OR 3 YEARS, AND WE HAVE NINE MEMBERS ON THAT BOARD. AND WE GOT WE GOT A LOT OF NINE VOTES AFTER A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND GOOD DISCUSSION, WE GOT A LOT OF NINE VOTES EVERY NOW AND THEN. WE HAD EIGHT ONES AND THEN SEVEN TWO. IT WAS OKAY. AND SOMETIMES THE BOARD MEMBERS EVEN CALL ME AND SAY, HEY MIKE, I NEED I'M, I NEED SOME MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM THAN THAT. I DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT ON CONSUMER AGENDA. I NEED I NEED TO HEAR WHAT THE REST OF THE BOARD THINKS ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW. APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT.

HEY. HEY, MIKE. I JUST DON'T THINK I CAN GET THERE ON THIS RECOMMENDATION, OKAY? BUT MOST OF THE TIME I'M GOING TO GET THERE. DALLAS MORNING NEWS EDITORIAL BOARD, CALL ME. COME BACK UP HERE AND TALK TO US. MIKE, ALL YOU GOT DOWN THERE NOW IS A RUBBER STAMP BOARD. I SAID, COME ON, WILLIS, COME ON. YOU WERE HERE. WE WERE IN HERE TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO AND YOU WERE FUSSING THAT THEY WEREN'T WORKING TOGETHER AND YOU WERE LOSING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES AND ECONOMIC GROWTH. AND NOW THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER. AND YOU WANT YOU WANT TO FUSS ABOUT IT. WHERE ARE WE SELLING NEWSPAPERS? ARE WE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO EDUCATE KIDS? WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? THANK YOU. I THANK TOUGH CONVERSATIONS ARE OKAY.

BUT THERE THERE HAS TO BE A COMING TOGETHER. YES. BRENDA, I THINK ONE OF MY FRUSTRATIONS ALSO GOING INTO YOUR FOUR IS DEALING WITH OUR TIME AS A BOARD ON TASK. AND SOMETIMES I'M FEELING FRUSTRATED THAT. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO TALK ABOUT THINGS. AND THE TIME THAT WE DO SPEND IN A MEETING. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT. IT NEEDS TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW WE GET THERE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY CHALLENGES. YOU LOOK AT AN AGENDA FRONT AND BACK AND WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS GATHERING MORE CONSENT ITEMS, WHICH IS GOOD, BUT I JUST THINK WE NEED SOME MORE NORMS OR STRUCTURES THAT MIGHT HELP US.

SO THAT OUR OUR MEETINGS ARE MORE ORGANIZED, THEY'RE MORE TIMELY. AND THEN THE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY URGENT FOR US TO TALK ABOUT, I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE SQUEEZES IT OUT.

WE DON'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS. AND Y'ALL HAVING TWO BUSINESS MEETINGS A MONTH OR OR. EVERY OTHER WEEK, I WOULD SAY TWO BUSINESS MEETINGS. AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S A WORKSHOP FOLLOWED BY AN ACTUAL MEETING, BUT I KIND OF CONSIDER IT. TWO WHENEVER WE COME TOGETHER AS A BODY, I CONSIDER IT A BUSINESS MEETING, BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF VOTING, RIGHT NOW, IT'S EVERY OTHER MEETING. WELL, I DID NOTICE AND SO DID OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHED. THE DISTRICT SHALL HAVE 46 MEETINGS LAST YEAR. THOSE INCLUDED SPECIAL MEETINGS.

SOME WERE BRIEF. THAT INCLUDED YOUR WORKSHOPS AND INCLUDED ALL YOUR REGULAR MEETINGS. THAT'S THAT'S ALMOST A MEETING A MONTH. IF YOU CAN'T WAIT TWO WEEKS AT CHRISTMAS AND TWO WEEKS IN THE SUMMER, AND TWO A WEEK OR SO AT THANKSGIVING. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO MEETINGS, BUT I DO THINK YOU

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WE GOT PLENTY OF JOBS. WE NEED YOU. WE NEED EVERYBODY. BUT IT'S JUST THAT PERCEPTION. AND I THINK EVEN FOR THE STAFF AS WELL, THESE ARE EDUCATION PROBLEMS. YES, KISD HAS UNIQUE PROBLEMS, BUT A LOT OF THESE BIG PROBLEMS ARE EDUCATIONAL. WELL SAID. AND I WOULD SAY YOU

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I'M GOING THERE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS ABOUT THE COURAGE THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR YOU TO VISIT SOME OF THE SUBJECTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VISIT. AND I AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER LITTLE STORY. AND I WENT TO A RICHARDSON ICED TEA, AND THEY HAD HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH CULTURE WARS IN THEIR DISTRICT. CRT WITH ALL KINDS OF ISSUES, AND THEY HAD A SUPERINTENDENT SEPARATION. AND SOCIAL MEDIA WAS REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT. BUT THE BOARD HAD LOTS AND LOTS OF UNKIND THINGS TO SAY, AND THEY ASKED ME TO COME OVER AND TALK TO HER. AND I WENT OVER AND I SAID, OKAY, SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. YOU'RE GETTING YOUR EVALUATION OF YOUR WORTH AS A TRUSTEE OFF SOCIAL MEDIA. THAT'S WHERE YOU GO AND GET TO SEE HOW YOU'RE DOING. SO I'M LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I SAID, WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HOW MANY OF YOU GOT A JOB? Y'ALL RAISE YOUR HAND. FAMILY ALL RAISE YOUR HAND. HOBBIES? BRIDGE, GOLF, SPORTS, ACTIVITIES, VACATIONS. CHURCH CLUBS FOR THOSE RAISING THEIR HANDS. SO IF SOMEBODY COMES UP TO YOU AND SAYS YOU CANNOT BE A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER ANYMORE, AND I TOLD MY SON THIS WHEN HE WAS ON THE ROUND ROCK SCHOOL BOARD, YOU CAN'T BE A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER ANYMORE. WE'RE TAKING THIS AWAY FROM YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO QUIT DOING ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS. NO MORE VACATIONS, NO MORE HOBBIES, NO MORE FAMILY, NO MORE GRANDKIDS. NO, NO, NO, NO, MIKE, WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE OF IT. THEN. READ THE AGENDA, ASK QUESTIONS, DISCUSS WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES, GET THE PERSPECTIVE. HEAR THE RECOMMENDATION. VOTE. GO HOME. OKAY. WITH. AND IF YOU KNOW SOMEDAY, AS I SAID, MY TRUST. I HANDED BACK THE TRUST THAT THE TRUST THAT I HAD. YOU MAY DECIDE TO HAND YOUR TRUST BACK. SOMEBODY MAY SAY, WELL, I WANT TO RUN AGAINST YOU. YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, I TOLD MASON, IF THEY SAY THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, YOU NEED TO SAY WE NEED GOOD. WE NEED GOOD PUBLIC SERVANTS. BUT. DON'T GET DON'T GET EVALUATED ON SOCIAL MEDIA. LOOK AT LOOK AT YOURSELF AND SAY THIS. THIS IS WHAT IS BEST. THE DISTRICT, WHETHER IT'S FACILITIES OPTIMIZATION, STUDENT PERFORMANCE, FINANCES. I'M OKAY, I STUDIED, I READ, I ASKED QUESTIONS, I LISTENED TO MY COLLEAGUES AND I VOTED AND I'M OKAY WITH MY VOTE. I'M SORRY IF SOMEBODY'S NOT AND IF THAT MAY JUST HAVE TO BE THE WAY IT IS.

AND I HAVE NOT FINDING HAS BEEN OVER A 40 PLUS YEARS. PEOPLE THAT SAY THEY'RE GOING TO COME DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NORMALLY DON'T, BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AND WHAT IT TAKES, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE THAT USUALLY THE STAFF IS PRESENTING TO YOU. BUT IF THEY DO, OKAY, WE HOPE PEOPLE ARE INFORMED, WE HOPE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S AND WILL HELP INFORM THEM IF THEY WANT INFORMATION FROM US, FROM BOARD OR FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT. THAT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO FURNISH IT, MAKE IT AVAILABLE. IF THEY WANT TO SECOND GUESS DECISIONS. OKAY. BUT IF THEY TAKE THIS AWAY FROM ME, IF SOMEBODY SAID, MIKE, YOU CAN'T COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION ANYMORE, MIKE, YOU CAN'T BE CERTAIN, OKAY? I GOT SOME GRANDKIDS AND I GOT SOME HOBBIES, AND I GOT SOME STUFF I LIKE TO DO. AND MY WIFE IN THERE IS MY SUPERVISOR, AND SHE'LL COME IN HERE AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO NOW, OKAY, BUT HOW DO YOU GET FULFILLMENT FROM THIS? HOW DO YOU GET GRATIFICATION FROM THIS? HOW DO YOU GET SATISFACTION FROM THIS SERVICE? HOW DO YOU GET THAT IF YOU DON'T? I DON'T, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE, I'VE BEEN ON SOME BOARDS OF TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY, THE THIRD LARGEST REAL ESTATE COMPANY IN THE WORLD. I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF SOUTHWEST SECURITIES. I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY IN CALIFORNIA. AND LET ME TELL YOU, IT'S A LOT HARDER BEING A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER. I TOLD THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, TRAMMELL CROW, I SAID, TELL YOU WHAT, DON, LET'S JUST OPEN OUR MEETINGS UP TO THE PUBLIC AND SET OUR SALARIES

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THAT'S THAT'S NOT IN THE CARDS. AND I KNOW THAT THIS STUFF GETS CLOSE TO US. YOU'RE PULLING FOR THE TEACHERS, YOU'RE PULLING FOR THE KIDS. YOU'RE PULLING FOR THE SCHOOLS. YOU WANT THEM TO DO WELL. YOU WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. YOU WANT AND THIS. AND AND WHEN YOU SEE THE SWEET STORIES I USED TO HAVE IN DALLAS ISD, YOU KNOW, WE HAD 166,000 KIDS AND 21,000 EMPLOYEES. WE HAD A LOT OF SWEET STORIES GOING ON EVERY DAY, BUT THAT WASN'T WHAT MADE THE NEWS. FIRST THING MADE THE NEWS WAS SOMETHING ELSE. IT USUALLY WASN'T A SWEET STORY, BUT THAT'S THE GRATIFICATION, SATISFIED SATISFACTION AND FULFILLMENT THAT I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR AND FIND TO TO ENJOY THIS SERVICE AND THEN BE OKAY. YOU KNOW, I TOLD MASON, MASON DON'T LIVE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THERE. WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY? AT LEAST I KNEW YOU. AND I SEE YOU SITTING BACK THERE TOO, BY THE WAY, I KNEW WITH NEWSPAPERS THEY HAD ACCOUNTABILITY. THEY HAD THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY. THERE'S SUCH A THING AS SLANDER AND LIBEL. AND THEY, AT LEAST WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, I HAVEN'T I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE Y'ALL EDUCATE ME. WHERE'S THE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR SOCIAL MEDIA? SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU, I'M SURE YOU HAVE PEOPLE HERE AT SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT MONITOR THAT COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE. AND IF A RESPONSE IS NEEDED THAT OKAY. BUT AS FAR AS YOU GETTING INTO THAT, I HOPE YOU'RE ABLE TO AVOID THAT. I GOT A ROLE HERE, BY THE WAY. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND FINISH UP, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK IN A MINUTE, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND TAKE ABOUT ANOTHER HOUR. AND THEN I'VE GOT YOU A READING ASSIGNMENT. IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE PART IN MY, MY ASSISTANT WILL SEND DIANA YOUR, MY TRAINING NUMBER. SO YOU'LL GET YOUR THREE HOURS CREDIT FOR YOUR TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING.

BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF IS TAKEN CARE OF, AND WE WILL TAKE A BREAK. AND WE WILL. YES, SIR. RODNEY, I WANT I WANT TO JUST SPEAK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE SOMETIMES AND I'M, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT. DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE I, MY PERCEPTION OF MOST OF OUR MEETINGS IS WE GET LECTURED TO AND WE HAVE VERY LITTLE TIME TO DISCUSS AMONGST THE BOARD. WE DON'T TALK, WE LISTEN, WE RECEIVE AND WE VOTE. AND I, WE PRAY FOR THE MEETING. SO WE HAVE SOME STUFF THAT WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF INTERNALIZED. WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO POSSIBLY DISCUSS, BUT WE WE DO VERY LITTLE DISCUSSIONS. AND I ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET OPPORTUNITY THE BOARD SHOULD DISCUSS? AND I TOLD YOU BEFORE THAT I GOT A LITTLE FRUSTRATED WITH THIS PROCESS OF WHY WE DON'T DO A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

WE DO A LOT OF LISTENING. I WOULD SAY THAT'S A GOOD SUBJECT FOR RESEARCH. HAS A BOARD PERSPECTIVE GOING TO BE FELT? THAT'S THE REASON I THINK MEETING ORGANIZATION IS IMPORTANT. WHAT DO YOU DO AT THOSE MEETINGS? DO WE HAVE SOME WORKSHOPS WHERE THAT'S WHAT WE DO? WE GET TO OFFER A PERSPECTIVE, THE BOARD PERSPECTIVE. NOW, YOU KNOW, THE REASON I DON'T WANT TO DO ALL THE TALKING, I'M ASKING Y'ALL QUESTIONS BECAUSE LISTENING IS STILL PRETTY IMPORTANT. I DROVE DOWN HERE, TOOK TWO HOURS AND 15 MINUTES TODAY, AND I, I GOT TO DO A LOT OF LISTENING. BUT IT WAS IT WAS NEEDED. IT WAS NEEDED, I NEEDED IT AND AND AND SHE WAS NICE ABOUT IT. VERY SWEET ABOUT IT. SHE'S A FORMER TEACHER, FORMER SECOND GRADE TEACHER. A COUPLE OF Y'ALL MET HER. SHE'S PRETTY SWEET GAL, AND I LOVE HER TO DEATH, BUT SHE DOES LIKE SHE WILL COACH ME. AND THAT'S OKAY, I NEED IT. BUT BUT, BUT LISTENING IS IS IS IMPORTANT. I JUST GIVE YOU EXAMPLE. WE HAD THOSE FOCUS GROUPS AND Y'ALL HAD GOOD FOCUS GROUPS. WE HAD GOOD PEOPLE. HOPE YOU GOT TO READ SOME OF THE NOTES AND SOME OF THE THINGS THEY SAID. BUT WE ASKED 4 OR 5 QUESTIONS AND EVERYBODY GOT TO SPEAK AT LEAST FOUR TIMES. AND I THINK WE HAD 16, 17, 18 PEOPLE IN THIS GROUP, AS I SAID TO THEM. SO 64 COMMENTS WERE MADE IN EACH GROUP. AND SO EVERYBODY GOT TO MAKE THEIR FOUR COMMENTS, 4 OR 5 COMMENTS, 4 OR 5 TIMES DURING THAT HOUR AND A HALF HOUR AND 45 MINUTES. BUT THEY HAD TO LISTEN TO THE OTHER 50. SOME ODD. SO LISTENING. IT'S IT'S IT'S OKAY FOR US TO LISTEN AND WE SHOULD

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BUT I THINK, I THINK YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. IT MIGHT BE MIGHT BE HELPFUL, BUT I'D ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TALK WITH THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT ABOUT HOW DO WE GET HOW DOES THE BOARD PERSPECTIVE. I ALSO HOPE AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT. I MET WITH EVERY ONE OF MY BOARD MEMBERS ONCE A MONTH AWAY FROM THE BOARD ROOM, EITHER BREAKFAST OR LUNCH, OR A SEPARATE MEETING JUST TO HEAR THEIR THOUGHTS, HOPES. THEIR THEIR CONCERNS.

AND SOMETIMES I GOT TO OFFER WHAT I THOUGHT MIGHT BE A REASONABLE SOLUTION, BUT THE COMMUNICATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT, AND THAT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE BOARD AND THIS, THIS TEAM OF EIGHT, IT WORKS SO MUCH BETTER WHEN THERE'S SOME OF THAT GOING ON. AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE JUST COME TOGETHER AND ALL AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE GOOD DISCUSSION. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND BETTER. ALL RIGHT, I GET IT. I DIDN'T GET IT. WHEN I GET I GET A I GOT A BETTER SENSE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING AND WHAT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE. AND IF AND YOU KNOW, I HEAR THE PRESS THAT THAT YOU NEED TO BE PRESSING FOR EXCELLENCE. I THINK ALL OF YOU WANT THAT, OLIVER HAS ARTICULATED THAT. BUT I HEAR EVERY I DON'T HEAR ANYBODY SAYING, NOW YOU'RE TALKING IT AND WALKING IT. IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. AND SOMETIMES THAT MEANS HARD DECISIONS. AND THE SUPERINTENDENT MAY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO ASSIGN SOMEONE, REASSIGN SOMEONE, DO SOMETHING. AND YOU SAY, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT IF EXCELLENCE IS WHAT WE'RE PURSUING, THAT MAY BE REQUIRED, THAT HARD DECISION MAY BE REQUIRED. NOW IT'S OKAY TO AGAIN ASK QUESTIONS AND UNDERSTAND, BUT THERE'S A TIME THEN TO GATHER UP AND SAY, WE'RE ALL MOVING THIS DISTRICT. WE WANT KILLEEN, KILLEEN, I-S-D.

WE WANT THIS TO BE A NOTEWORTHY DISTRICT. AND TO GET THERE. WE CAN'T JUST TOLERATE LITTLE WELL, LET'S JUST KIND OF HOPE WE GET THIS RIGHT NOW. WE ARE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A TENT. THIS IS ALL INTENTIONAL. WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD. AND AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ALSO TRUST SOMEBODY Y'ALL ARE STRIVING TO SELECT A LEADER. TO TRUST IS A BIG DEAL. YOU GIVE YOUR PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT YOU'RE REALLY STRIVING FOR. IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE PILOT AND THE AIRPLANE. THE BOARD TELLS THE SUPERINTENDENT, THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO GO, AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE. BUT THE BOARD DOESN'T TELL THE SUPERINTENDENT HOW TO FLY THE PLANE OR TO SET THE RUDDERS. BOARD HAS TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY, THIS IS THIS IS OUR TARGET. THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO GO. SO YOUR JOB IS TO GET US THERE. YOU SEE THAT WE'RE RUNNING LOW ON FUEL, AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND BRING THAT TO US. BUT YOU DON'T YOU DON'T GO IN AND TRY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THAT RUDDER? WHAT'S THIS? WHAT'S THIS? MEASUREMENT HERE? WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT IN THERE DOING THAT. THERE'LL BE A TIME FOR ACCOUNTABILITY. PARTICULARLY IF

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THAT ALWAYS HASN'T BEEN WHAT I WITNESSED. AND SO I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT BOARD IN REGARDS TO RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER AND LISTENING TO EACH OTHER. SOMETIMES OUR CONVERSATIONS GO ON FOR A WHILE. PERHAPS THAT CAN BE LESSENED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT DIRECTLY REACHING OUT TO A BOARD MEMBER WHO MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS, OR A PRESENTER FOR THAT PARTICULAR SUBJECT. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO UNDERSTAND.

AS AN ELECTED BOARD, WE ARE REALLY RESTRICTED ON HOW WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND IT'S NOT LIKE I CAN CALL UP MARVIN AND SAY, MARVIN HAS A PRINCIPAL AT ELLISON HIGH SCHOOL. HOW DID YOU HANDLE THIS? HEY, TINA, WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? HEY, BRENDA, CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THAT? NOW WE HAVE A WALKING QUORUM. IF I WANT TO HEAR THOSE THREE PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE EDUCATORS IN THE ROOM AND I VALUE THEIR OPINION. SO THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE TO HAPPEN HERE IN THIS BOARD ROOM.

SO IF MY MARKER TELLS YOU NOT TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. NO HE'S NOT. NO. AND NOR HAS ANYBODY ELSE TOLD US NOT TO, BUT WE STILL HAVE WALKING QUORUM ISSUES. YOU KNOW, IF I CALL UP HER AND HIM AND HER ALL ABOUT THE SAME TOPIC, I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE. YOU HAVE TO BE SO.

SO TALK TO YOU. WELL, IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. AND IF YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE THE PERSON WHO WANTS TO MAKE SURE YOU STAY ON THIS SIDE OF THE LAW, YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE HESITANT ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS TO ME CALL IN A COUPLE OF CATEGORIES AND YOU CAN JUST.

Y'ALL Y'ALL HAVE TO TO BE THE JUDGE OF THAT. THERE'S THERE'S NOT ANY NOT ANYTHING I CAN GIVE YOU ON THAT. MIKE. LET ME ASK ONE THING. ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK HAS HAPPENED IN CASSIDY IS I THINK WE WENT FROM A SMALL SYSTEM TO A BIG SYSTEM REALLY, REALLY

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IN SOME CASES, TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS IN ADVANCE OF WHAT I CALL REAL TIME LIVE ACTION. AND IT'S TO ME, IT'S JUST NOT BEEN A REALLY GOOD CADENCE TO THE WORK. THAT'S JUST HOW I VIEWED IT ABOUT THAT, JUST A LITTLE BIT. HENCE THE WORK OF THE BOARD FOR THE YEAR.

AND YOU CAN'T YOU WON'T. THAT WON'T INCLUDE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP. BUT BUT A BOARD CALENDAR THAT KIND OF THESE THINGS HAPPEN IN IN JANUARY. THESE THINGS HAPPEN IN FEBRUARY. THESE THINGS HAPPEN IN MARCH. AND THAT INCLUDES SOME EVALUATIONS, SOME ACCOUNTABILITY CONTRACTS. THAT INCLUDES THINGS THAT THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO TO TAKE ACTION ON. I MIGHT, MIGHT CONSIDER A BOARD CALENDAR TO GET YOU WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. TINA, DO YOU HAVE A SAMPLE? 1 OR 1 THAT KIND OF HAS AN OUTLINE THAT ALIGNS WITH, YOU KNOW, HIRING AND SUPERINTENDENT EVALUATIONS AND JUST BASIC THINGS THAT HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE STATE? I'LL SEND ONE TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND LET YOU ALL CAN EVALUATE THAT AND DECIDE IF THAT'S SOMETHING HELPFUL TO YOU OR NOT. BUT I THINK, I THINK IT MIGHT BE THAT YOU KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT ARE THE BIG TICKET ITEMS WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOME, THOUGH THAT CAN'T BE ANTICIPATED. SO YOU WILL? YES. SO WE ALSO BEEN WORKING ON ONBOARDING. BOOK IF YOU WILL BE ONLINE AS WELL AS IN THE BOOK, WHICH WE FEEL IS GOING TO BE MORE BENEFICIAL FOR NEW BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL ON TIMELINES, FEEDING THEM IN, FEEDING THEM THE DATA ON HOW TO COME INTO THE BOARDROOM WITH THE SUCCESSFUL PLAN AT THE VERY BEGINNING. AND I THINK THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TOO, AS TO BOARD MEETINGS AND THINGS. BUT BOARD MEMBER, THE ORIENTATION BOARD MEMBERS, AND I WOULD HOPE WE'RE PRESENT AND THE REST OF THE BOARD, PARTICULARLY THE SUPERINTENDENT, I BROUGHT NEW BOARD MEMBERS IN, AND I HAD THEM USUALLY SPEND A. GIVE US MUST HAVE A HALF DAY A DAY, AND I'D USUALLY INTRODUCE THEM TO THE CABINET. I'D GIVE THEM PROBABLY 30 MINUTES WITH EACH CABINET MEMBER. AND THEN I'D WE HAD WE HAD A ONBOARDING ORIENTATION PLAN. I WOULD ENCOURAGE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE THAT. AND HAVE IT IN YOUR OPERATING ROOMS. GET THAT BOARD OPERATING RULES IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY THERE. IS THAT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENERGY BOARD? IS IT IN THERE? WE'VE ADDED SOME OF THAT IN RECENT RECENT YEARS. LET'S DO THIS. I'VE KEPT YOU HERE ABOUT AN HOUR.

WE'LL START AGAIN OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO RECESS NOW AT 6:13 P.M. AND WE WILL COME BACK AT NOW IT'S 623. WE'RE COMING BACK FROM RECESS AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO DOCTOR MOSES. HERE. DO YOU WANT TO STOP ME AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. THEN YOU CAN. BUT SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN PRETTY FAST. BOARD CHALLENGES I JUST WHAT I'VE LISTENED TO, I'VE, I'VE HEARD I'VE HEARD FACILITIES OPTIMIZATION, TEACHER RETENTION.

WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA, AND I AND I HOPE THAT I WASN'T BEING FLIPPANT. I WASN'T TRYING TO BE FLIPPANT. I JUST THINK YOU HAVE TO GET TO THE POINT WITH THAT, THAT YOU CAN YOU CAN MOVE ON WITHOUT WITHOUT SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME ON THAT EMAIL. COMMUNICATION IS IS REALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY BEFORE YOU HIT SEND. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I GET CALLS FROM SUPERINTENDENTS, BOARD MEMBERS, USUALLY WEEKLY. DOCTOR MOSES I HIT SEND BEFORE. I SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. I SAID, YEAH, AND YOU HAVE TO ASSUME EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING AND EVERYTHING WE'RE SAYING IN HERE. EVERYTHING I'M SAYING I KNOW IS SUBJECT TO PUBLIC INFORMATION. SO YOU WANT TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT ABOUT EMAILS AND EMAIL COMMUNICATION, BOARD

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ARE YOU A COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER? I HOPE THAT YOU'RE A PERSON GIVING SERVICE. I TOLD MASON, I SAID, MASON, IF YOU TRY TO BECOME THE BROKER FOR ALL YOUR FRIENDS THAT WANT TO CALL YOU UP AND TELL YOU WHAT THEY WANT THE SYSTEM TO BLOCK, OR YOU'RE GOING TO BE A VERY UNHAPPY FOR YOU. YOU DON'T HELP THEM LEARN HOW TO ACCESS THE SYSTEM. THIS IS A SYSTEM. AS A SUPERINTENDENT, HAS ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENTS, HAS DIRECTORS, HAS OTHER PEOPLE, HAS PRINCIPALS. THE SYSTEM. NOW WHEN PEOPLE WOULD CALL ME, I'D SAY, I DON'T MIND YOU STARTING WITH ME, BUT YOU START WITH ME AND I GIVE YOU A DECISION YOU DON'T LIKE. YOU ONLY GOT ONE PLACE LEFT TO GO. THAT'S THE BOARD. WHY DON'T WE TRY TO GET YOU TO THE TEACHER OR THE PRINCIPAL, OR TO THE RIGHT PLACE AND GET YOUR. AND GET THE SITUATION RESOLVED, IF WE CAN.

OH, OKAY. SOMETIMES I KNOW YOU HAVE TO MAYBE ASK PEOPLE. THIS IS WHERE I THINK YOU NEED TO GO, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. YOU GOT ALL THESE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, SUPERINTENDENT, CIVIC LEADERS, OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS, TEACHERS, JOURNALISTS, VENDORS, PARENTS, DISTRICT EMPLOYEES. THOSE ARE IMPORTANT. THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO YOU AS TRUSTEES.

NOT SO MUCH THAT YOU SEEK THEM OUT. THEY'RE GOING TO SEEK YOU OUT FROM TIME TO TIME. AND THAT'S OKAY. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU'RE SEEKING THEM OUT, THEN THAT'S THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. DEAL. YOU ARE THE ELECTED OFFICIAL. YOU ARE THE PERSON PUTTING TRUST IN THE SYSTEM, THE ONE I'D BE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT. AND I LOOK WHEN I LOOK UP THERE THAT I HAD TO DEAL WITH WHEN I WAS IN AUSTIN, WERE BOARD MEMBERS THAT GOT INVOLVED WITH VENDORS AND GOT TOO CLOSE TO VENDORS. IT'S NOT A GOOD THING. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LET YOUR BUSINESS OFFICE, COMPETITIVE BIDDING, RFPS RFQS HAVE YOUR POLICIES THAT WHAT YOU REQUIRE PLOT TO VENDORS COURTEOUS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN OUR DISTRICT. THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO WORK WITH US. THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR SERVICE. BUT WE HAVE A PROCEDURE. THIS IS WHAT WE DO. AND THIS IS WE HAVE A LARGE BUSINESS HERE. OUR BUDGET IS HOW MUCH? HALF $1 MILLION. SO WE RUN IT LIKE A BUSINESS HERE. STEVE SAID NO YOU DON'T. YES WE DO. SORRY IF YOU DON'T SEE THAT. BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE WE THIS BOARD STRIVES TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S

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I'VE ALREADY SAID THAT. DO LISTEN. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ALSO LISTEN. RESPECT YOUR GROUP. OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE THESE ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WAS THAT KEEP IT IN THE FAMILY ME WHAT'S THAT TALKING ABOUT? SOCIAL MEDIA.

COME ON. THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO COME BEFORE Y'ALL THAT ARE JUST AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE PERSONAL RELATED. COULD BE REAL ESTATE RELATED, COULD BE STUDENT RELATED. THOSE ARE CONFIDENTIAL MATTERS TO BE KEPT. WHERE HERE. KEEP IT IN THE FAMILY HAS TO BE. AND THEN WE'RE ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF LOOKING. WE'RE GOING TO DISAGREE. I MAY SEE IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM ALL OR FROM BRENDA. I MAY, BUT BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR COMMON GROUND.

FOR COMMON ACTION, FOR COMMON GOOD. WE ARE WE LIVE HERE. WE WANT GOOD THINGS HERE. WE MAY NEED TO HAVE SOME TOUGH DISCUSSIONS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TOGETHER AS A BOARD, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEND A SIGNAL TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEND A SIGNAL. THE SUPERINTENDENT, YOU'RE SENDING A SIGNAL TO YOUR STAFF AND TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE WANT THIS DISTRICT TO GO. AND IF IT'S ABOUT AND YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GO WRONG. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PATRONIZE YOU HERE EITHER, BY THE WAY, BUT YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GO WRONG FOCUSING ON EDUCATIONAL EXCELLENCE. I'VE HAD BOARDS THAT GOT INTO OTHER. ISSUES AND THE PUBLIC, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? IT'S ABOUT IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION, ABOUT EDUCATIONAL EXCELLENCE. WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR ALL THE WAR STORIES ON THAT. WE DON'T ATTACK EACH OTHER. WE DON'T TALK OVER EACH OTHER. WE DON'T GO SOLO. I'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. I HAD A BOARD MEMBER I LOVED. HIS NAME WAS ROY GRIMES. HE WAS A NAVAL OFFICER AND GOT ON THE SCHOOL BOARD AND LOVE IT. HE WAS GOSH, HE WAS GREAT. AND HE DECIDED, YOU KNOW, HE HAD SOME PARENTS THAT GOT TO HIM AND HE SAID, MIKE'S BUSY. I HE DID. HE WOULD. HE WAS SUCH A GOOD BOARD MEMBER FOR ME AND SO COOPERATIVE THAT HE DECIDED, I'M GOING TO HELP MIKE OUT AND I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THERE AND HANDLE THIS. I'M GOING TO GO GET INVOLVED WITH IT WITH THE PRINCIPAL AND THE TEACHERS. AT ABOUT 11:00 ONE MORNING, I STARTED GETTING CALLS AND HE SHOWED UP IN MY OFFICE AND SAID, HE SAID, I THINK I'VE DONE SOMETHING BAD. I SAID, I THINK YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING BAD TO. AND I SAID, NOW I'M GOING TO HANDLE IT. I GOTTA HANDLE IT. AND IT'S AND TEACHERS WERE MAD AND THE PARENTS ARE MAD AND THE PRINCIPALS, EVERYBODY'S MAD. HE SAID, YEAH, I KNOW. HE SAID, I MESSED UP. I SAID, I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING. I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING, BUT DON'T DO THAT. PLEASE LET ME DO MY JOB AND YOU DO YOUR JOB. HE SAID, I GOT IT. I'M OKAY. AND HE HE DID. HE WAS HE WAS A HE WAS A GREAT GUY.

BUT I WORRY PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW I'VE, I'VE HAD A BOARD WHERE EVERYTHING'S BAD CONSPIRACY. THESE TEACHERS ARE JUST THEY'RE JUST THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO TEACH THE KIDS.

THEY'RE TRYING TO DUMB THEM DOWN. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, MY MOTHER AND DAD WERE TEACHERS.

MY MOTHER IN LAW, FATHER AND ALL TEACHERS, LIKE DEBBIE WAS A TEACHER, MY BROTHER, A TEACHER, PRINCIPAL. HIS WIFE'S A TEACHER. WE THEY'RE ALL THEY'VE ALL MADE MISTAKES. I'VE MADE MISTAKES.

BUT I DON'T KNOW MANY PEOPLE. AND I GO TO CHURCH FOR UTI, TOO, WITH A LOT OF TEACHERS THAT INTENTIONALLY SET OUT TO MESS UP. AND THERE'S PEOPLE MAKE BAD MISTAKES, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, IN ANY PROFESSION. BUT CONSPIRACIES THEORISTS WARNED ME, AND I HOPE YOU CAN. I HOPE YOU CAN NOT SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON ON THAT. AND ONCE YOU'VE MADE A DECISION, EVEN IF YOU EVEN THINK, GOSH, I WOULD HAVE DONE THE RIGHT THING THERE, YOU KNOW WHAT? SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT WANT TO COME BACK IN A YEAR AND VISIT SOMETHING AGAIN, AND THAT'S OKAY. BUT SOMETIMES THERE'S A MOMENT TO TO SAY, WE VOTED. THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE. WE NEED TO BE. I'LL BE THERE AND BE SUPPORTING THIS. THERE MAY BE A TIME WHEN WE NEED TO ASK THE BOARD PRESIDENT, LET'S REVISIT THAT. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO UNDERMINE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GET INVOLVED IN CONSTITUENT SERVICES OR YOU GET ASKED TO FOR THIS LOT. I THINK I'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON IT.

THERE'S A RIGHT WAY AND A WRONG WAY. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE SOMETIME, BUT I HOPE YOU ALSO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HELPING THEM GET THE ASSISTANCE THEY RIGHTFULLY DESERVE AND NEED TO ACCESS THE SYSTEM, BUT NOT NOT CROSS INTO SAYING. AND

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YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE WILLING FOR US TO LET YOU BE THE PERSON ACCOUNTABLE NEXT YEAR WHEN THE PERFORMANCE COMES OUT FOR THAT SCHOOL? WELL, NO, NO, NO, I SAID, WELL, HOLD UP JUST A MINUTE THEN LET'S DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY. LET'S LET'S DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THERE'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GET THE CONSTITUENT SERVICE THAT YOU WANT TO GET SUPPORT AND SUPPORTING IMPROVEMENT. GET THE DEMOCRATIC EXPECTATION. AND ALSO MAKE SURE YOU'RE DOING YOUR ROLE AND YOU GET TO DO YOUR ROLE IN TERMS OF BOARD OVERSIGHT OF MANAGEMENT, THAT IS A LEGITIMATE ROLE THAT THE BOARD HAS. I THINK I'LL GET THAT ONE. YOU HAVE TO EVALUATE THAT. WHAT AM MY CONSTITUENTS WANT? AND ARE THEY ALWAYS RIGHT? YOU WANT TO AGAIN, OUR NATURAL INCLINATION IS TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE. I DIDN'T SAY PLEASE PEOPLE, BUT I SAID HELP PEOPLE.

AND IF YOU GET TO THE POINT THAT I HAVE TO PLEASE THEM, THEN THAT'S THAT'S USUALLY NOT GOING TO HELP YOU. TRYING TO HELP AND LISTEN AND, AND POINT THEM IN A DIRECTION IS USUALLY THE WAY TO GO. YOU CAN'T. THANK THAT SECOND BULLET. YOU DON'T. IF YOU RECOMMEND THE RESPONSE, THERE IS A TIME FOR YOU TO HOLD THE SUPERINTENDENT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE OPERATION OF THE DISTRICT. BUT IF YOU PRESCRIBE THE RESPONSES WHEN THAT TIME COMES, THEN THAT ACCOUNTABILITY IS A LOT MORE DIFFICULT. SO I THINK YOU WANT TO BE CAREFUL. AGAIN, I WOULD AS I SAID TO YOU, I ASKED MY BOARD MEMBERS, I'LL NEVER TELL YOU HOW TO VOTE. JUST PLEASE DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO RECOMMEND. AND THEN YOU EVALUATE THE RECOMMENDATION AND YOU MAKE THE DECISION ON THE RECOMMENDATION. AND I WILL RESPECT THAT. SUPERINTENDENT NEEDS TO HAVE A SYSTEM SET UP.

AND I HOPE YOU YOU HAVE A BOARD POLICY, I'M SURE, ON COMPLAINTS AND GRIEVANCES AND HOPEFULLY THAT THAT'S IT'S SET UP IN SUCH A WAY THAT A A SPEEDY RESOLUTION CAN BE FOUND. NOW, SOMETIMES IF SOMEBODY WANTS A LOT OF TIME AND INVESTIGATION, THAT MAY TAKE MORE TIME. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE SPEED. IF THERE ARE PATTERNS OF COMPLAINTS THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT IS SAYING, PLEASE REPORT THOSE TO THE BOARD. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S COMING ON THIS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS IS HEADED. HERE'S THE BIG HERE'S THE BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT I THINK ALL BOARDS NEED TO KNOW. AND I THINK THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS TO BE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE FIRST ONE IS SAFETY. MY DAD USED TO TELL ME, MIKE, THE PARENTS WILL FORGIVE YOU IF YOU DON'T TEACH THEIR KIDS ENOUGH READING AND WRITING AND ARITHMETIC. BUT IF YOU LET SOMETHING HAPPEN TO THEIR CHILD AT SCHOOL. THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO FORGIVE. SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN, SAFETY OF OUR EMPLOYEES, SAFETY OF OUR GUESTS, SAFETY AT SCHOOL. AND YOU. YOU HAVE A RIGHT AS A BOARD TO KNOW IS DO WE HAVE THE SAFETY PROTOCOLS, THE SAFETY POLICIES? IS EVERYTHING IN PLACE? YOU KNOW, WHAT I SEE IN TERMS OF SAFETY IN THIS BUILDING LOOKS GOOD. YOU WANT TO BE SURE THAT IT'S THE SAME PLACE, SAME WAY EVERYWHERE. ARE THE DISTRICT'S ASSETS SECURED? YOU ARE THE STEWARDS. YOU ARE STEWARDS OF THE DISTRICT. STEWARDSHIP IS CRITICAL. AND YOU DON'T. YOU DON'T WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED. YOU WANT TO KNOW, ARE THESE ASSETS SECURE? AND IT'S FAIR FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT. WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR BIGGEST PROTECTION, YOUR BIGGEST PROTECTION, AND KNOWING WHERE THE ASSETS ARE SECURED? IS ANYBODY LIKE TO OFFER ME A THOUGHT ON THAT? THAT WOULD BE YOUR BIGGEST YOU AS A BOARD MEMBER, WHAT IS YOUR BIGGEST ASSURANCE OR SECURITY THAT THE ASSETS ARE SAFE, SECURE? WELL, I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT IT'S YOUR ANNUAL AUDIT DONE BY YOUR EXTERNAL AUDITOR. WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD, SOCIAL SECURITY BOARD, THE BOARD, I WAS YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY I WANT TO KNOW WHEN I GOT APPOINTED, DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY ERRORS OR OMISSIONS POLICY? ATTORNEYS

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DOES FAIRNESS PREVAIL? ARE OUR SYSTEMS EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE? DOCTOR DAVIS, AS INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT, YOU SEE ANYTHING UP THERE THAT I'VE LEFT OFF THAT IT'S NOT FAIR FOR THE BOARD TO KNOW. I THINK THAT'S THOSE ARE HIGH LEVEL ISSUES. SAFETY, FINANCE, FAIRNESS, OR ARE WE FOLLOWING OUR OWN POLICIES AND LAWS? TO ME, THAT'S THAT'S BIG STUFF THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, IF YOU SAID WHAT WHAT SHOULD WE REALLY BE SURE WE'RE ABOUT? I COULD PROBABLY PUT WHAT ELSE UP THERE AND PUT. STUDENT PERFORMANCE, BUT I'M GOING TO ASSUME WE KNOW THAT'S OUR MISSION AND OUR SWEET SPOT. BUT THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY VITAL. ALL THAT STUFF'S PRETTY VITAL, AT LEAST IN MY MIND. AND I THINK IN THE MINDS OF A LOT OF PEOPLE, MANAGEMENT OVERSIGHT. IF YOU ATTEMPT TO MANAGE OR GET INTO MANAGEMENT, YOU DISEMPOWER THE SUPERINTENDENT. YOU YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE BOARD PERSPECTIVE, THE BOARD DISCUSSION, THE BOARD THOUGHTS. SUPERINTENDENT, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. YOU CAN VOTE IT UP OR DOWN. YOU ALSO CAN VOTE IT UP AND THEN EVALUATE IT IN THE SUPERINTENDENT'S EVALUATION.

AND THE CONDUCT OF THESE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND PERSONNEL RECOMMENDATIONS ON FINANCE RECOMMENDATION ON SCHOOL CLOSURES. AND AND I AND I WOULD SAY THERE ARE CERTAIN ITEMS LIKE THAT ONE I JUST MENTIONED REDRAWING ATTENDANCE BOUNDARIES, CLOSING SCHOOLS, RAISING TAXES, HIGH STRESS ISSUES THAT PROBABLY DO REQUIRE YOUR TIME AND DISCUSSION. BUT EVENTUALLY, AFTER YOU'RE ALL THE PERSPECTIVES HAVE BEEN HEARD, THEN A RECOMMENDATION HAS TO BE FORMULATED, AND HOPEFULLY IT'S ONE THAT YOU ARE ALL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S YOU DON'T WANT TO WEAKEN YOURSELVES BY DISEMPOWERING THE SUPERINTENDENT AS YOU GO THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES. OVERSIGHT IS REVIEWING RESULTS OF MANAGEMENT DECISIONS, GUARANTEEING INTEGRITY OF MAJOR MANAGEMENT DECISIONS. IT'S NOT TRYING TO INFLUENCE THE DECISIONS BEFORE WE MAKE THEM, OR EVEN REVIEWING THEM AFTER THEY'RE MADE. THERE'S A TIME, AND I CALL THAT TIME THE EVALUATION TIME WITH WITH YOU. AND IF YOU AGAIN, THE BOARD CALENDAR ALL REFLECT WHEN IS THERE GOING TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY, WHEN IS THERE GOING TO BE AN EVALUATION? WHEN IS THERE GOING TO BE A REVIEW OF PERFORMANCE? FOLLOWED BY ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT MAY BE NECESSARY? HOPEFULLY YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WHOLE SYSTEM. ALL THE ACTIVITIES IN THE SYSTEM AND NOT INDIVIDUALS IN THE SYSTEM. IF YOU IT'S PLENTY FAIR TO REPORT CONCERNS TO THE SUPERINTENDENT ABOUT INDIVIDUALS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO TRY TO GET INVOLVED IN ANY OTHER ACTION.

AGAIN, YOU EVALUATE THE SUPERINTENDENT ON HOW PERSONNEL IS HANDLED AND HOW PERSONNEL ACTIONS ARE ARE RESOLVED. A LITTLE BIT UP THERE ABOUT OVERSIGHT AND MANAGEMENT. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ALREADY ABOUT BOARD WORKSHOPS, SUPERINTENDENT REPORTS. DO YOU ALL HAVE BOARD COMMITTEES? YEAH. WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE A LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE. I THINK THERE'S THREE STANDING COMMITTEES. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I. INFORMATION IT'S NOT ANY YOU

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IT'S JUST FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU WANT. YOU MAY WANT TO STRIVE AS YOU MOVE FORWARD. IF THEY WORK FOR YOU, YOU THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO GO. A LOT OF COMMITTEES, THAT'S FINE. BUT I THINK THAT. MANY DISTRICTS HAVE FOUND THAT THAT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MAKES SURE THAT WE SEE EVERYTHING THAT AND EVERYBODY SEES WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.

THOSE BOARD WORKSHOPS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, YOU MAY CALL THEM BOARD MEETINGS, BUT YOU'RE SIGNALING, YOU'RE SENDING SIGNALS, YOU'RE PREPARED, YOU'RE READING. YOU MAY HAVE DISCUSSION, BUT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TAKE ACTION. YOU MAY WANT TO SAY, I DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE READY FOR THIS YET TO TAKE ACTION. LET'S LET'S SEE THIS ON ANOTHER AGENDA. LET'S TALK ABOUT IT SOME MORE. NOW, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE AND AGAIN YOU GET INTO TIME CONSTRAINTS SOMETIMES YOU YOU KNOW BUT SUPERINTENDENT NEEDS TO HELP ON THIS AND CERTAINLY THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE WATCHFUL. LET'S WATCH OUR CALENDAR. LET'S SEE WHAT'S COMING AT US. AND LET'S TRY TO GET AS FAR IN FRONT OF IT AS WE CAN. SO WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT INTO SURPRISES. I'M FLYING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY SAID ABOUT BOARDS, COMMITTEES.

BUT I REALLY WANT TO SAY TO YOU ABOUT THAT. TWO MOST COMPLEX PROBLEMATIC ISSUES FOR GOVERNANCE TEAM. THERE THEY ARE. HOW YOU CAN WORK WITH EACH OTHER AND HOW YOU WORK INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT. Y'ALL ARE GOOD PEOPLE. I THINK YOU HAVE A REALLY DESIRE TO MAKE THIS A REALLY, REALLY GREAT DISTRICT. AND COLLEEN HAS A WONDERFUL HISTORY AND LEGACY. I'VE BEEN COMING AROUND HERE. I HOPE SOME OF YOU BEFORE, 50 YEARS AGO, CFO WAS A GUY NAMED MARK BOLTON. MARK BOLTON AND HIS WIFE PHYLLIS LIVED HERE, AND HE WORKED HERE WITH SEVERAL SUPERINTENDENTS, AND HE LIVED IN THE HE AND PHYLLIS LIVED IN THE APARTMENT RIGHT BY MY MOTHER AND DAD AT NORTH TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY. SO I GOT BROUGHT TO KILLEEN, STARTED WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID TO SEE THE BOLTON'S. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE BEEN IN YOUR DISTRICT AND HOW MANY TIMES I'VE BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO TOLERATE THEM. BUT THIS IS A YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A EXCELLENT COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW Y'ALL WANT GOOD THINGS AND HOW YOU DO THIS TOGETHER, HOW YOU WORK COLLECTIVELY TOGETHER. IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO YOUR COMMUNITY. IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT. CENTRAL TEXAS. AND I WOULD SUGGEST IT'S WITH THE MILITARY BASE HERE. IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT TO TEXAS TOO. SO THERE'S YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR AREAS OF POSSIBLE CONFLICT. YOU WANT TO TRY TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND MINDFUL ABOUT YOUR ROLE AS A POLICYMAKER. AS YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE, WE DON'T DISRESPECT ONE ANOTHER. WE LISTEN. UNANIMITY IS UNANIMITY IS NOT REQUIRED, BUT COURTESY IS. SURPRISES. I SAY THIS DOCTOR DAVIS, TO ALL SUPERINTENDENTS, INTERIM SUPERINTENDENTS AND ALL PEOPLE. OUR JOB AS LEADERS IS NOT TO SURPRISE THE BOARD, AND WE HOPE THE BOARD WON'T SURPRISE US THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO GOOD THINGS FOR KIDS. BUT IT'S THIS IS NOT A GOTCHA GAME. THIS IS THIS IS TRYING TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL AND ALSO VERY PROFESSIONAL. YOU HAVE THREE GREAT LEVERS OF POWER. THE FIRST ONE IS THE SELECTION OF YOUR SUPERINTENDENT. THAT IS THE MOMENT THAT YOU ARE YOU ARE ENTRUSTING SOMEONE TO LEAD. AND AGAIN, LEADING IS REQUIRES HUMILITY. HUMILITY. THAT'S WITH CONFIDENCE. TAKE YOU A LONG WAY.

AND THE BOARD ALSO WANTS TO BE TRUSTING. TRUST FACTOR IS IMPORTANT. ONCE IT'S LOST, IT'S HARD TO EVER GET IT BACK. MAINTAINING TRUST REQUIRES. MY FINDING WAS ALWAYS IF I DON'T

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THEY CONSTANTLY SACRIFICE FOR THE GUY NEXT TO THEM. THEIR OFFENSE IS SUCH POETRY IN MOTION. THAT'S BEAUTIFUL OFFENSE. I HOPE THE KIDS AT HOME AND THEIR YOUTH COACHES JUST TAKE THAT POSSESSION AND SHOW IT ON AN ENDLESS LOOP. YOU KNOW, THEY CALL THE SPURS GAME THE BEAUTIFUL GAME. BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING THIS TO A BAD DEFENSIVE TEAM. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MIAMI BEING ONE OF THE HERALD HALF COURT DEFENSIVE TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE, AND SAN ANTONIO IS RUNNING A CLINIC. THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THEY CANNOT STOP GINOBILI FOR THREE. HOW GOOD HAS THIS SPURS OFFENSE. BEEN 29 ASSISTS. MARK MORRIS HAS PUT ON AN ABSOLUTE CLINIC ON HOW TO PASS THE BASKETBALL. SAN ANTONIO'S BIGS PASS THE BALL SO WELL SPLITTER DUNCAN AND IN PARTICULAR LOOK HOW EVERYBODY TOUCHED THE BALL WITHOUT IT GOING TO THE FLOOR.

FILMS AT THAT TIME LEONARD ON THE FOLLOW KAWHI LEONARD GO VISIT ANYTHING THAT YOU SAID TO KAWHI OR ANYONE ELSE SAID TO KAWHI GOING INTO THIS GAME THAT LED TO THIS PERFORMANCE. WE TALKED TO KAWHI AND WHAT DID YOU TELL HIM? THAT'S FAMILY BUSINESS. AND THERE ARE HIGH OIL MACHINE. THEY THEY MOVED THE BALL EXTREMELY WELL I DON'T THINK THE BALL HIT THE DECK ON THAT EXCHANGE. BEAUTIFUL MOVEMENT. THEY PUT YOU IN SO MANY DIFFICULT POSITIONS. YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE NOT RIGHT ON RIGHT ON TIME RIGHT ON TARGET AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU PAY FOR IT. TOUCHING HANDS TO GINOBILI INSIDE DUNCAN OUT TO PARKER FOR THREE. BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU SEE YOUR SUPERSTAR YOUR FRANCHISE BEING SO UNSELFISH THAT MAKES YOU WANT TO BE THAT GUY TO YOU KNOW TIMMY IS A GREAT EXAMPLE FOR ME. HE WAS A MODEL FOR ME TO FOLLOW.

HE'S BEEN SO GOOD FOR SO LONG. AND I THINK A BIG KEY FOR SUCCESS IS WE NEVER LET OUR EGO, YOU KNOW, ME OR TIMMY OR MANU BE AHEAD OF THE TEAM. THE SPURS MIGHT BE THE BEST PASSING TEAM WE'VE SEEN SINCE THE CELTICS OF THE 80S, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY JUST FIND A BETTER SHOT EVERY SINGLE TIME. THE MIAMI HEAT. AS MUCH AS I RESPECT WHAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED, THEY CAN'T BE DISCOURAGED. PATTY MILLS AHEAD. PATTY MILLS HUGE OFF THE BENCH. THE LONGEVITY, THE SUSTAINED EXCELLENCE TO ME OF TIM DUNCAN JUST MIND BOGGLING THE BALL. DUNCAN ON THE FOLLOW. FINISH WITH THE LEFT HAND I LOVE MANU GINOBILI. I'VE ENJOYED WATCHING HIM PLAY IN THE NBA AS MUCH AS ANY PLAYER. LISTEN, HE WOULD BE IN MY HALL OF FAME ANYWHERE, ANYTIME. ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL PASS FROM GINOBILI FOR HIS 10TH ASSIST OF THE GAME. THE BALL MOVEMENT ONCE AGAIN UNBELIEVABLE. WE GOT ONE MORE TO WIN. WE'LL DO IT THIS TIME.

IT'S THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS. YOU SHOWED THE WORLD HOW BEAUTIFUL THIS GAME IS. CHRIS BOSH DESCRIBED THE SPURS AS THE BEST BASKETBALL TEAM HE'S EVER PLAYED AGAINST. HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE WHAT YOU RAN INTO IN THE FINALS? I WOULD AGREE THAT'S WHAT TEAM BASKETBALL AND THAT'S HOW TEAM BASKETBALL SHOULD BE PLAYED. YOU KNOW, IT'S SELFLESS GUYS. MOVE. CUT PASS. YOU GOT A SHOT. YOU TAKE IT. BUT IT'S ALL FOR THE TEAM. AND THAT'S HOW TEAM BASKETBALL SHOULD BE PLAYED. KAWHI LEONARD. YOU ARE THE 2014 BILL RUSSELL MVP. SEVEN YEARS. BACK. I'VE

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IN ALL THE YEARS I'VE BEEN COACHING TO SEE THE FORTITUDE YOU GUYS DISPLAYED AND COMING BACK FROM THAT HORRIFIC LOSS LAST YEAR AND GETTING YOURSELVES BACK TO THAT POSITION AND DOING WHAT YOU DID IN THE FINALS, YOU'RE REALLY TO BE HONORED FOR THAT. AND I JUST CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT MEANS. WHAT DID YOU SAY THERE? WAS TEAMWORK. SELFLESSNESS, SELFLESSNESS. WHAT ELSE? TEAMWORK. WHAT'S THAT? A LOT OF PRACTICE. A LOT OF PRACTICE, YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? BASKETBALL. BASKETBALL? YEAH. SO YOU SAW A LOT OF BASKETBALL, DIDN'T YOU, SUSAN? YEAH, YEAH. POSITION OTHER PEOPLE BE SUCCESSFUL POSITIONING OTHER PEOPLE, THAT'S WHAT THE SPURS SUCCESS I THINK THEY CAN DO THAT WITH FIVE SUPERSTARS. NOBODY WANTED TO BE A SUPERSTAR. WITH FIVE SUPERSTARS, BECAUSE NOBODY WANTED TO EVEN START LETTING OTHER PEOPLE GET THE CREDIT RIGHT, TO GET THE CREDIT, GIVE THE CREDIT TO GET THE CREDIT, GET THE CREDIT. YOU BRAG ON YOUR TEACHERS, BRAG ON YOUR KIDS. BRAG ON YOUR SCHOOLS. AND WE NEED YOU TO GIVE US A CREDIT TO GET THE CREDIT. GET THE CREDIT. Y'ALL DO RECOGNITIONS AND AND AGAIN, I, I LIKE THAT. I JUST SAY MAKE IT COUNT, MAKE THOSE COUNT MAKE THOSE, MAKE THOSE MEANINGFUL. SO PEOPLE ARE SAYING YOU DO GOOD STUFF FOR KIDS AND QUEEN. YOU WILL BE RECOGNIZED. YOU WILL GET CREDITED WITH THAT. THAT'S A BUT I THINK THAT KIND OF THAT MESSAGE OF TEAMWORK, SELFLESSNESS. I GOT A SHOT. YOU GOT A BETTER SHOT. I'LL GET IT TO YOU. I GOT AN IDEA. YOU GOT A BETTER IDEA? I THOUGHT I HAD A GOOD IDEA, BUT I THINK YOUR IDEA IS BETTER ON THIS POLICY. ON THIS PRACTICE. I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE MY WAY. BECAUSE IF WHO I AM OR HOW LONG I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, WHERE I LIVE. AND I JUST WANT A GOOD OUTCOME FOR KIDS AND FOR OUR DISTRICT. AND THAT. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, I THINK AS I KIND OF LOOK AT THE BOARD AND I JUST KIND OF JOTTING SOME THINGS DOWN, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK DOES MAKE THIS BOARD, I MIGHT EVEN SAY SUCCESSFUL. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THIS BOARD HAS POTENTIAL IS BECAUSE THERE'S A, I'LL SAY, A LACK OF EGO, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU GET I DON'T KNOW IF MY WIFE'S LISTENING OR NOT, BUT LIKE WHEN YOU GET INTO A DISPUTE OR WHEN YOU GIVE IN A IN AN ARGUMENT WITH YOUR SPOUSE, LIKE IF YOU EACH AGREE TO TAKE 50%, IT'S A BAD DEAL, RIGHT? IT'S EITHER 100%, IT'S ALWAYS 100 TO 0, OR IT SHOULD BE RIGHT. AND I SCREW IT UP BASICALLY ON AN HOURLY BASIS. BUT IT SHOULD BE A 100. IT'S A GIVE, RIGHT? IT'S JUST A GIVE. IT'S NOT A TAKE, IT'S JUST A GIVE. AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE ON THE RECEIVING END OF THE GIVE AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE ON THE GIVING END OF THE GIVE. BUT I THINK HERE WHY WE HAVE POTENTIAL TO, TO FIX A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING WRONG. BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TRYING TO FIX, MAKE OURSELVES BETTER. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE GET THERE. I THINK WE'RE WELL POSITIONED TO DO IT. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT VIDEO IS A PRETTY GOOD. AND RODNEY, YOU PUT IT, WOULD YOU SAY JUST SAY IT BEFORE I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE FIVE, FIVE SUPERSTARS THAT DIDN'T WANT TO BE SUPERSTARS. YEAH I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO PUT IT. SO I FEEL WE'VE GOT POTENTIAL. WE JUST GOT TO WORK ON SOME THINGS. YOU HAVE YOUR OWN GIFTS AND YOU HAVE YOUR PUT ON THIS BOARD.

YOU WERE PUT IN TRUST AGAIN BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU ARE TRUSTING YOUR TRUSTEES WHO ARE TRUSTED BECAUSE THE ABILITIES YOU HAVE THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY ONE OF US. MORE NECESSARILY MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE. BUT THAT YOU DO HAVE GREAT POTENTIAL AND YOU'RE LEARNING. AND I THINK IF YOU CONTINUE TO WORK, CONTINUE TO, TO, TO LEARN, YOU'RE GOING TO DO WELL. I WANT TO RUN A FEW OF THESE LITTLE QUICK SCENARIOS FOR YOU, JUST MAKE YOU THINK FOR A MINUTE. ANYBODY WANT TO READ NUMBER ONE? I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. CAN YOU CHANGE JOBS THERE AND PUT

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THAT'S A LITTLE THAT, THAT THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT. BOARD MEMBER AND BOARD PRESIDENT SAYS MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR AN UPCOMING AGENDA TO RECONSIDER OUR POLICY OF NOT NAMING SCHOOLS AFTER PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL ALIVE.

WOULD YOU PLEASE DO THAT? MANAGEMENT OR GOVERNANCE? GOVERNANCE. KEY WORD UP THERE IS WHAT? KEY WORD THAT I SEE. IF THERE'S POLICY WHERE YOU ARE THE POLICY MAKERS OF THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT AND FAIR GAME. I'D LIKE TO THERE'S POLICY THAT CONCERNS ME, BUT IT MIGHT BE NAMING OF SCHOOLS. IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE. I'D LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER AND LOOK AT. SOMETIMES I MIGHT JUST WANT A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND IT, OR WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. OR IT MAY BE THAT WE NEED A BOARD DISCUSSION AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS. WHAT'S WHAT'S THIS ABOUT? VERY, VERY MUCH A GOVERNANCE MATTER. BOARD MEMBER BEASLEY, DURING REGULAR BOARD MEETING SAYS, MADAM LIEUTENANT, I HAVE A SUSPICION THAT WE'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY TO BUILD OUR SCHOOLS. WHAT IS OUR COST PER SQUARE FOOT AND HOW DOES THIS COMPARE WITH THE COST FOR NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS? BUT. SURPRISE, DON'T YOU KNOW ALL THE COST OF HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING AND HOW MUCH EVERYBODY'S SPENDING TO BUILD NEW SCHOOLS? HOW DO WE COMPARE? DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT COST ON ALL THE NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS? MAYBE I WOULD ASK FOR A REPORT ON THAT. COULD WE GET A REPORT FOR DISCUSSION OR INFORMATION THAT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT THAT THAT MIGHT FALL INTO SOME SOME MEMBERS CALL THAT AN AMBUSH? I

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I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET INVITED TO CHRISTMAS PARTIES. YOU'RE GETTING INVITED. YOU'RE GOING TO GET INVITED TO ALL KINDS OF STUFF. AND YOU SHOULD GO. I THINK TRUSTEES SHOULD GO.

AN INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE TOUR IS USUALLY, WHY DON'T YOU CALL THE SUPERINTENDENT AND SAY, HEY.

AND MY DAD TOLD ME, HEY, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL, CALL ME. I'LL MEET YOU THERE, AND WE'LL WALK AROUND AND LOOK AROUND. IF YOU'RE HEARING PARENTS SAY, WELL, PARENTS SAYING THE AIR CONDITIONERS AREN'T WORKING, WELL, LET'S LET'S GO LOOK AT IT OR LET'S TAKE SOMEBODY'S MAINTENANCE WITH US, YOU KNOW? BUT LET'S DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. AND BY THE WAY, YOU PROBABLY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS. OKAY, WELL, Y'ALL GET TO DO IT HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT. IT'S YOUR BOARD. YEAH, IT'S A GOOD WAY TO. WELL, I THINK I, I THINK THERE IS. PEOPLE PEOPLE KNOW IN YOUR DISTRICT AND STAFF MEMBERS KNOW WHO YOU ARE. THEY KNOW BOARD MEMBERS. THEY DO. AND THANK YOU.

WANT TO THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT WHAT ARE THE WHAT I WANT TO COMMUNICATE AGAIN, IF IT'S IF IT'S I HOPE YOU DON'T WANT TO COMMUNICATE THAT I'M BROKERING THE SYSTEM AND I'M GOING TO CHECK IN ON THE SYSTEM BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST, TRUST AND VERIFY. BUT IF I WANT TO GO LOOK, YOU KNOW, I CALL SUPERINTENDENT, SAY, MR. SUPERINTENDENT, SUPERINTENDENT, I'D REALLY LIKE TO GO VISIT A SCHOOL. OKAY. LET'S GO, LET'S GO. AND IF THERE'S A CONCERN, I HOPE YOU TELL ME ABOUT IT. I HOPE YOU'LL TELL ME ABOUT IT. GIVE ME A CHANCE TO WORK ON IT. THAT'S WHAT. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. WE WE REALLY NEED TO SEE. SIX BOARD MEMBER CALLS UP AND SAYS, I JUST HAD BREAKFAST WITH A GROUP OF CITY LEADERS. THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIETY ABOUT YOUR UPCOMING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD REGARDING THE TIMING OF THE BOND PROPOSAL. I JUST WANT TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH YOU AND GIVE YOU A HEADS UP. IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY HEARD THIS. SOUNDS LIKE I LIKE IT. IT'S THE BEST EYES AND EARS THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS. ARE YOU? YOU'RE THE BEST EYES AND EARS YOU'RE. YOU ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY. IF YOU IF YOU YOU COME TO ME AND TELL ME THAT THE FIRST THING I'M GOING TO DO IS TELL. HOLD IT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HOLD ON THIS. WE THERE'S SOME OBVIOUSLY SOME QUESTIONS OUT THERE. WE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO GO ADDRESS AND WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED IT. SO I DON'T I LIKE THAT KIND OF INFORMATION. I THINK BOARD MEMBERS BEING THE EYES AND EARS FOR THE DISTRICT SUPERINTENDENT IS HELPFUL. THE SCHOOL BOARD OPERATES JUDICIAL CAPACITY IS MEETING HERE. GRIEVANCE FROM A TEACHER WITH A MEDICAL PROBLEM THAT REQUIRES HER TO USE BATHROOM OFTEN. THE TEACHER HAS FILED A GRIEVANCE BECAUSE THE PRINCIPAL IS ASSIGNED TO A CLASSROOM FAR AWAY FROM THE BATHROOM. DESPITE A REQUEST TO BE NEAR ONE. AT GRIEVANCE HEARING, BOARD MEMBER MAKES A MOTION TO SUSTAIN THE AGREEMENT AND REQUIRE THE PRINCIPAL TO REASSIGN A TEACHER TO A CLASSROOM NEAR THE BATHROOM. SCHILLING'S MOTION IS APPROVED BY THE BOARD. CONTEXTUAL NOTE STATE LAW GIVES PRINCIPALS THE RIGHT TO MAKE TEACHER ASSIGNMENTS. THE DISTRICT HAS NO POLICY REQUIRING PRINCIPALS, TEACHERS, MEDICAL CONDITION, AND CONSIDERATION. ON A GRIEVANCE LIKE THAT. I MEAN, WELL, WE DON'T VOTE ON GRIEVANCES LIKE THAT. THEY ASK FOR SOMETHING EITHER WITH YOU, YOU UPHOLD OR SUSTAIN. YES.

THERE YOU GO. YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION. OKAY. SCHILLING DECIDED TO PRESCRIBE THE SOLUTION IF HE WANTS TO UPHOLD THE TEACHER'S GRIEVANCE. OKAY, MAKE THE MOTION. THE BOARD DOES IT. BUT HE WENT ONE STEP FURTHER AND SAID, THIS IS THE PRESCRIPTION FOR THE SOLUTION.

SUPERINTENDENT. PRINCIPAL, WE'RE GOING PAST YOU, YOU YOU, WE'RE GOING TO UPHOLD THE GRIEVANCE. AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO GO FURTHER AND TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH THAT. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD I'VE SAID TO SEVERAL SUPERINTENDENTS, IF YOU LET THIS GET TO YOUR BOARD, I'D

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SMITHERS. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NOW, I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT HOLDING OR OBJECTING, BUT THERE ARE SOME SITUATIONS WHERE IT JUST AIN'T RIGHT. AND THEY GET TO US, AND WE DON'T. WE? WE CAN, YOU KNOW. SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO SUSTAIN IT. EVEN SO, WE'RE GOING TO SAY, NO, DON'T REJECT THIS, TURN IT BACK. BUT THERE'S SOME REMEDIES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED THAT MAYBE WE TELL THE TRUTH, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE GRIEVANCES HAPPENED, WE TURN AROUND AND SAY, HEY, MR. SUPERINTENDENT, SUPERINTENDENT, HEY, CAN YOU LOOK INTO THAT SITUATION? I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF YOU.

SUPERINTENDENT AFTER ME SAID I VOTED TO UPHOLD, BUT I. BUT BUT I'VE GOT A CONCERN AND I HOPE YOU LOOK INTO THAT. YEAH, BUT I ALSO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN SUPERINTENDENTS GETS THE THEY AND THE BOARD CAN MAKE THEIR OWN CALLS. I USED TO EVEN ON GRIEVANCES SOMETIMES LIKE YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE I HAD USUALLY SOMEBODY IN THE BACK ONE OF MY STAFF MEMBERS USUALLY IN THE BACK TO USUALLY TALK TO PEOPLE AND TELL ME A LITTLE MORE ABOUT YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE. TELL ME A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH HERE. AT LEAST LET LET ME KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I NOTICED IT. YOU KNOW, SUSAN SPOKE TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HERE TONIGHT. I THINK THAT'S FINE, BUT I THINK WHAT'S REALLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS ALWAYS. WE ALWAYS HAD SOMEBODY IN THE BACK. I HAD SOMEBODY 2 OR 3 PEOPLE, SOMETIMES IN THE BACK OF OUR BOARD MEMBER JUST TO SAY, AND IF I, IF I DID THAT, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GET MORE INFORMATION. AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT THAT'S JUST NOT THAT'S NOT LEGITIMATE. BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO FURTHER, THEN WE HAD A LITTLE WAY OF GETTING SOMEBODY AFTER THE AFTER THEY WHAT WE DON'T DO WHAT Y'ALL DID CORRECTLY. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DON'T. YOU DON'T GET INTO THE THE SPECIFICS. THERE'S SOMEONE THAT MIGHT FOLLOW UP AND SAY, COULD YOU TELL ME A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THIS HAPPENED OR WHO'S INVOLVED? LA LA LA LA LA LA. LET ME GET SOME MORE INFORMATION. THERE MAY BE THERE MAY BE COMPLETELY CORRECT. AND THERE COULD BE A DIFFERENT SIDE TO THE STORY TOO. SO BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY WAIT, BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE, WE HAVE TO EITHER. SOMETIMES I'M, I'M I'M NOT GOING TO I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THE PLAINTIFF. I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR. BUT MORE THAN LIKELY YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A REASON FOR DOING IT, THOUGH. THERE'S ALSO ONE OTHER THING THAT I'VE DONE BEFORE, AND I HOPE WHOEVER YOU HIRE DOESN'T. I'VE LEARNED SOMETHING AFTER THE FACT, AND I'VE BROUGHT IT BACK AND HAD IT REVERSED. AND THAT'S ILLEGAL TOO. AND IT'S OKAY. IN FACT, I'D RATHER SOMEBODY SAY WE MADE A MISTAKE AND WE'RE FIXING. WE'D LIKE YOU TO HELP US CORRECT IT. SCENARIO EIGHT DURING REGULAR MONTHLY MEETING, BOARD MEMBER SMITHERS RAISE HIS HAND. SAID MR. SIMPSON. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT MY SAFETY. OUR DISTRICT. I'M HEARING STORIES ABOUT RECKLESS DRIVING, BUSSES NOT BEING ADEQUATELY MAINTAINED. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR PERCEPTION IS AND WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS TO DEAL WITH THIS? SECOND OF ALL, RIGHT NOW. MAYBE WE COULD HAVE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA LIKE IT COULD HAVE BEEN A DISCUSSION ITEM WHERE WE COULD HAVE BEEN AN ITEM OR INFORMATION ITEM ABOUT OUR BUSSES. HOW MANY MILES ARE WE DRIVING? HOW MANY CITATIONS HAVE BEEN ISSUED? HOW MANY COLLISIONS HAVE WE HAD? MAYBE WE NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE MORE ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. BUT JUST TO SAY RIGHT NOW I WANT TO KNOW THIS. GIVE IT TO ME. DURING WORKSHOP. BOARD MEMBER. JONES. BOARD MEMBER. SMITH. I'M SORRY, SAYS BOARD MEMBER SMITH SAYS, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF OUR DISTRICT POLICY ON NEPOTISM? OKAY. FAIR QUESTION. YOU PAYING THE SUPERINTENDENT FOR COUNSEL ADVICE? COMMENT NOW ON THAT ONE. YOU KNOW, I THINK I CAN SAY I

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I. I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A PROBLEM OTHER THAN IF IT'S GRILLING. MIGHT NOT. IF YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR INFORMATION, AND THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS AGREED THAT THESE ARE PEOPLE, THAT I'M PUTTING THESE PEOPLE ON STAFF IN FRONT OF THE BOARD TO EITHER PRESENT OR TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, THEN, OKAY, NOW I'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT HAVE GIVEN POOR ANSWERS TO THE BOARD, AND I KNEW IT AND THE BOARD DID IT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHILL THEM OUT, THOUGH, IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY. I'M GOING TO DO IT IN MY OFFICE AND I'M GOING TO SAY. CURTIS, YOU DIDN'T DO WELL OUT THERE TONIGHT. WEREN'T FAIR. NOW WE USUALLY HAVE DRESS REHEARSALS IN MY DISTRICTS. I HAD DRESS REHEARSALS WITH STAFF. IF I WAS GOING TO LET STAFF TALK, I WOULD ALSO TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE, I MADE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND I ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS. IF YOU ANSWERED ME, ASK ME A QUESTION I COULDN'T ANSWER. I MIGHT ASK A STAFF TO HELP ME. OR I MIGHT SAY, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I THINK I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THAT ITEM BEFORE FROM YOU TO THE TONIGHT AND COME BACK AND LET US REVISIT THAT WITH YOU AND BE MORE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT IT. AND SOMETIMES THAT'S.

DOCTOR DAVIS. YOU EVER SEEN THAT BEFORE? WHICH HAD A THERE'S A MOMENT. THERE'S SOMETIMES THERE'S A MOMENT, BUT I CAN'T, I CAN'T LET PEOPLE I CAN'T LET THE STAFF THAT WE COUNT ON BE BELITTLED. OR BE DIMINISHED. THEY MAY MAKE MISTAKES AND THEY DESERVE AT THAT TIME I'LL DEAL WITH IT. BUT AS FAR AS IF YOU'RE UNHAPPY WITH THE RESPONSE, FAIR ENOUGH.

TELL ME. I NEED TO KNOW. I MAY BE UNHAPPIER THAN YOU ARE. BUT AS FAR AS OUR TAKING PEOPLE TO TASK AND IT'S OKAY TO SAY, MR. PRESIDENT. MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THIS NEXT MONTH. WHAT'S YOUR NICE WAY OF SAYING I'M NOT READY REALLY TO VOTE ON THAT? BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT? YOU FIGURE IT OUT.

SUPERINTENDENT KNOWS WHAT THAT MEANS. DON'T WE? WE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. SO I'M NOT. BUT.

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LET'S MAKE A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS. I THINK YOU. ALWAYS HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE OPEN MEETINGS LAW, THE OPEN RECORDS ACT. YOU GOT TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF THOSE. YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE YOU'RE ADHERING. THEY CHANGE THOSE CHANGE WHEN YOU CAN MEET WHEN YOU CAN CONDUCT YOUR MEETINGS AND SO FORTH. AND I'M. WELL, I JUST THINK IT'S SOMEWHAT DISRESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME. YOU DON'T GET PAID. AND WISHING YOU THAT WAS NOT THE CASE. THE OTHER THING IS, I THINK GIVEN YOUR STUDENT PERFORMANCE CHALLENGES, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT SOME OF THE REMEDIES MAY BE THAT ARE PROPOSED BY THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY. I DON'T I HAVEN'T WORKED AT THE AGENCY AND LED THE AGENCY. I DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE ANSWERS. I ALWAYS WORRIED, AND THE REASON I WAS NOT A BIG FAN OF SCHOOL TAKEOVERS, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT TAKEOVERS, THE THREAT OF A TAKEOVER WAS, WAS ACTUALLY GREATER THAN THE TAKEOVER ITSELF. THE LEVERAGE WAS THE THREAT OF TAKEOVERS. BUT I WILL SAY THIS, I THINK NOW THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE SUCH AND CERTAINLY YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH THIS, AND BABIES CAN DISAGREE WITH THIS, BUT WITH SOME OF THE EXAMINATION OF THE AGENCY IS MAKING OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THEIR EFFORTS TOWARD ADDRESSING LOW PERFORMANCE, I WOULD BE I WOULD I WOULD PROBABLY GET IN PRETTY CLOSE TO LINE WITH WHERE THEY WANTED TO BE WITH WHAT THEY THOUGHT WOULD HAPPEN, BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS SOME SERIOUSNESS. ABOUT THE AGENCY, ABOUT INTERVENTIONS. YOU CAN CALL THEM INTERVENTIONS, TAKEOVERS, WHETHER IT BE LIKE TO TO FOLLOW.

BUT I, I WOULD PAY I WOULD BE PAYING VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE

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THERE'S A LEVEL OF SERIOUSNESS. I'VE NOT SEEN AT THE AGENCY. AND AGAIN, I THINK THE AGENCY HAS EVERY RIGHT TO INSIST UPON HIGH LEVELS OF PERFORMANCE. YOU ALL HAVE HIGH LEVELS OF PERFORMANCE. I WANT HIGH LEVELS OF PERFORMANCE. HAVING SAID THAT, YOU ALSO DON'T WANT TO LOSE TEACHERS. YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE STAFF. YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. YOU KNOW, IN A WAY THAT. PROMOTES AND UPLIFTS PEOPLE. ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE EXTENT THAT TARGETING OUR IMPROVEMENT, IF WE CAN THROW MONEY AT A PROBLEM, BUT THAT DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM, IT SELDOM FIXES THE PROBLEM. AND AND THAT DAY IS GOING TO NO, NO. SO IT'S SO AT SOME POINT IN THERE WE HAVE TO GET PARENTS ENGAGED AS WELL BECAUSE EDUCATION. AND I HEARD A RETIRED NCO SAY THIS THE OTHER DAY WHO HAS NOW WRITTEN A BOOK AND DID WONDERFUL THINGS IN THE MILITARY. AND HE SAID WHEN HE WAS YOUNG, HE DIDN'T TAKE EDUCATION VERY SERIOUSLY.

HE WAS A HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT. AND THEN EVEN AS A LEADER IN THE MILITARY, HE DIDN'T NECESSARILY PUSH EDUCATION. AND NOW AS AN OLDER GENTLEMAN, HE LOOKS BACK AT THAT AND SAYS, DANG, I WISH I HAD DONE BETTER. AND SO FOR PARENTS, IT'S FOR THEM TO SEE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT KISD HAS FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND HOW THEY EMBRACE IT. HOW DO WE BRING THOSE PARENTS INTO THE FOLD? BECAUSE WE WE CAN PUT SOME OF THE BURDEN. WE CAN PUT THE BURDEN ON THE TEACHER IN THE CLASSROOM. WE CAN PUT THE BURDEN ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO EDUCATE THE CHILD. BUT IT'S IT'S A THREE LEGGED STOOL. SO. SO HOW DO WE FIX THAT SHORT LEG IF WE HAVE A SHORT LEG? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TEACH? WHO'S GOING TO WHO'S GOING TO TEACH, WHO'S GOING TO TEACH, WHO'S GOING TO PAY? PARENTS ARE SUCH A BIG PART OF THE EQUATION. BUT YOU? I LOVE GIVING Y'ALL THE 70, 70, 70 DEAL TO 70% OF OUR STUDENTS IN ALL OF TEXAS PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE MINORITY CHILDREN. 70% OF OUR TEACHERS TEACHING ALL THOSE KIDS ARE ANGLO AND WHITE TEACHERS, AND 70% OF THE ADULT TAXPAYERS IN TEXAS DO NOT HAVE SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN. SO THAT 70, 70, 70 THING, I USE THAT A LOT OF SPEECHES I MAKE. THAT'S A BIG DYNAMIC IN TEXAS. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T SAY WE DID THIS WITH GREAT SUCCESS, ALTHOUGH WE HAD BETTER THAN SUCCESS THAN I THOUGHT. IN DALLAS, WE HAD SATURDAY SCHOOL FOR PARENTS. WE HAD SATURDAY SCHOOL PARENTS, AND WE HAD WE HAD BREAKFAST, WE HAD FOOD. WE HAD TO GET PEOPLE. WE COME FOR FOOD SOMETIME THAT WE HAD SATURDAY SCHOOL IN THE MORNINGS TO HELP TRAIN PARENTS ON HOW TO HELP THEIR KIDS, AND IF THEY COULDN'T HELP THEM WITH THEIR HOMEWORK. WE TRIED TO TRAIN ON WHAT TO LOOK FOR AND ALSO. THE SUBJECT OF STUDENT DISCIPLINE AND CONDUCT WAS A THING. WE DID IT AT MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN DALLAS, AND I'M NOT SAYING AGAIN THAT WE WERE THE. BUT IT'S A MAY I GO TO THOSE ON SATURDAY MORNINGS. AND I WAS ALWAYS AMAZED THAT HE WOULD SHOW UP AND, AND OF COURSE, OUR WE HAD PARENTS OF ALL ETHNICITIES BECAUSE OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT AT THAT TIME WAS 92% OF CHILDREN WERE MINORITY CHILDREN IN DALLAS. SO. THAT'S THAT. AND EVEN MY, EVEN MY WIFE WAS INVOLVED IN IN TRAINING PARENTS AND TEACHING PARENTS. BUT IT

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SO I'LL JUST OFFER THAT. AND YOU OFFER THAT AS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, NOT JUST A MAGIC BULLET, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. BUT WHAT IT ALSO SAID TO OUR PARENTS IS, WE'RE NOT LEAVING YOU BEHIND, AND WE'RE GOING TO OFFER YOU SOMETHING IF YOU REALLY CARE.

HERE, HERE'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY. SO, SO PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR US TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH HERE. WELL, WE GOT WE GOT FOR SATURDAY. WE GOT FOUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE SATURDAY SCHOOLS, BUT I ASKED PEOPLE SOMETIMES I SAID, WHY DID YOU COUNT? WHAT WOULD YOU COUNT.

BECAUSE YOU FED ME. YOU FED US. PUBLIC EDUCATION IS FREE TO THE CONSUMER. IT'S LIKE WATER AND FOOD. SO SOMETIMES THEY DON'T ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE VALUE OF WHICH IS A SAD THE SAD THING IT'S NO DOUBT. BUT BUT YOU KNOW THAT THAT 70, 70, 70 DYNAMIC IS ONE THAT WE GOT TO WE GOT TO BE READY TO ADDRESS. I MEAN, THAT'S WHY I SAY GET READY TO HAVE A BOND ISSUE. YOU GET READY TO GO. FINE. YOU KNOW, WE WE PASSED THE NATION'S LARGEST BOND ISSUE FOR ABOUT A BILLION.

EIGHT WHEN I WAS HERE IN DALLAS AND EVERYBODY SAID EDITORIAL BOARD DALLAS. AND THEY SAID, NOT GONNA HAPPEN. YOU'RE NOT GONNA PASS IT. NORTH DALLAS MOTORS, FOR ALL THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS, AREN'T GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS. I SAID, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY. AND THE LARGEST NUMBER OF VOTES WE'VE EVER HAD PEOPLE VOTING ON DALLAS WAS 28,000. AND THAT'S 70% THAT DON'T HAVE SCHOOL AGED KIDS. I DID FIND OUT WHERE THEY ALL WERE. THEY WERE THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH, FIRST METHODIST CHURCH, THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH, PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, THE TEMPLE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THEY WERE THEY WERE IN ALL THE CHURCHES. AND SO EVERYBODY THAT WOULD HEAR ME ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT OR TUESDAY NIGHT OR THURSDAY NIGHT OR AT METHODIST MEN OR WHEREVER THEY WERE MEETING, THEY GOT THEY GOT THE SCHOOL DEAL, WHICH IS BASICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE KIDS IN SCHOOL, YOUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE FROZEN. AND BY THE WAY, YOUR PROPERTY VALUE HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH HOW MUCH QUALITY WE CAN OFFER YOU THAT DAY ON THE BOND ELECTION. NO BIG DEAL, BUT WE HAD 33,000 PEOPLE THAT WERE FILLED WITH.

WE HAD 105,000 PEOPLE WROTE THAT, AND WE GOT 65% OF VOTING VOTING DAY WITH ABSENTEE VOTING, I THINK WE GOT 74% AND BUILT 20 NEW SCHOOLS AND NEW MODEL, ABOUT 230 SCHOOLS. IT BUT THOSE THOSE PEOPLE AGAIN, THE PARENTS TALKED ABOUT AND THEN THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE SCHOOL AGE KIDS AND Y'ALL ARE KIDS KNOW Y'ALL ALREADY KNOW THE FASTEST GROWING PARTS OF THE POPULATION OVER 55. AND UNDER 18 AND UNDER 18 ARE MORE MINORITY. THE OLDER KIDS ARE FINE. I'M THE WRONG ONE. SO HERE'S THE BIG QUESTION WILL THE OLD LADY EDUCATION GO? AND WE WE GOT TO MAKE IT SO THEY UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS. YOU CAN DO IT. YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOME GOOD THINGS, GET GET GOOD LEADERSHIP. AND YOU'LL TRUST YOU DON'T TRUST AND YOU'LL VERIFY THOSE SURPRISES. ASK THE QUESTIONS, WHAT ELSE? I'M ALREADY ALL THE TIME I TOLD Y'ALL, GET OUT OF HERE. Y'ALL GOT OTHER THINGS TO DO TONIGHT. BUT ANYTHING I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT, YOU SAID YOU THOUGHT, MAN, THIS GUY NEEDS TO SAY SOMETHING BETTER. YOU SAID, I'M SICK OF THIS. GET OUT. GET OUT OF HERE. THAT WAS. I APPRECIATE YOU. YOUR APPRECIATE YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. YEAH. GREAT.

WELL, I'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE. ANYTHING ELSE? WE HADN'T SAID COMING OUT OF THE DALLAS SCHOOL AREA. SO I WAS I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I WAS OUT AS WE WERE WEARING THAT, THOSE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS FROM DALLAS AND WHAT WERE THEY HAVE TO RAISE. AND THEY SPEND 35, UP TO $60,000 TO RUN A CAMPAIGN. THAT'S AND THAT'S IN DISTRICT I LIVE IN 2 OR 3 OTHER DISTRICTS.

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PEGGY WILL SEND. HER UP HERE. WELL, DOCTOR, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME COMING TO KILLEEN TODAY TO HELP US. AND JUST ON SO MANY FRONTS, JUST NOT THE TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING, BUT ALSO THROUGH OUR SEARCH PROCESS ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, WE THINK WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. AND AND I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE. I JUST DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE. BUT ANYWAY.

WELL, TRUSTEES, WE'RE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. AND I'VE GOT A MOTION BY MADAM CAPITO, AND I HAVE A SECOND BY MR. GILCHREST TO ADJOURN THE TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING AT

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