Aug 05, 2025 Board Workshop

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IT IS NOW 9 A.M. ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 5TH, 2025. THIS WORKSHOP OF THE CLEAN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. THE FOLLOWING TRUSTEES ARE PRESENT AND PARTICIPATING. SUSAN JONES, VICE PRESIDENT BRENDA ADAMS, BOARD SECRETARY OLIVER MINTZ, BOARD MEMBER TINA CAPUTO, BOARD MEMBER. AND ME, BRETT WILLIAMS, PRESIDENT AND PRESIDING OFFICER.

ABSENT AT THIS TIME AND NOT PARTICIPATING, IS BOARD MEMBER MARVIN RAINWATER AND BOARD MEMBER RODNEY GILCHRIST. FOR THE RECORD, A QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THIS PRESENT. A RECORD OF THIS MEETING IS BEING MADE AND WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT A LATER DATE.

WE'RE ALSO STREAMING THIS MEETING ON OUR CABLE CHANNEL 17 AND ON THE DISTRICT'S WEB PAGE.

AS A REMINDER, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC FORUM MUST SUBMIT THEIR SIGN UP SHEET AT THIS TIME. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE PUBLIC FORUM. THE BOARD WILL NOW HEAR COMMENTS FROM THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK PER BOARD POLICY. EACH PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. I WILL ASK THE AUDIENCE TO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ANY PUBLIC OUTBURSTS AND TO MAINTAIN DECORUM. PARENTS, EMPLOYEES AND CITIZENS ARE ENCOURAGED TO UTILIZE THE DISTRICT'S GRIEVANCE PROCESS TO THE FULLEST EXTENT POSSIBLE. RELATED POLICIES ARE AVAILABLE ON THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE OR UPON REQUEST. FOR THE RECORD, WE ASK THAT THE PUBLIC FOR THE RECORD, WE ASK THAT ALL PUBLIC FORUM PARTICIPANTS BEGIN BY STATING THEIR NAME AND THE CITY IN WHICH THEY RESIDE. ONCE COMPLETE, YOUR THREE MINUTES WILL BEGIN. I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP

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DO YOU WANT ME TO? TINA CAPITO JUST SAID SOMEONE INFORMED HER. BECAUSE WE TESTED IT BEFORE IT WAS WORKING. OH. YOU'RE HEARING THAT? THEY'RE HEARING IT. OKAY, THEN. THEY'RE HERE IN OUR. OKAY, SO WHOEVER'S TELLING YOU THAT TO TURN THEIR VOLUME UP. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT. 9:04 A.M.

MR. RAINWATER HAS ARRIVED. WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME. WE APOLOGIZE TO OUR OUR VIEWING AUDIENCE. SO WE'RE GOING TO PICK BACK UP AT B DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED CLEAN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT FOR THE 2025 2026 SCHOOL YEAR. MR. WELLS, WELCOME. GOOD MORNING, MR. PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DOCTOR OSBORNE. WE ARE HERE THIS MORNING TO PRESENT THE 20 2526 STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THIS MORNING. GO OVER THE PROCESS THAT THAT BROUGHT US HERE. WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CHANGES, I WOULD ASK AS WE GET INTO THIS, IF WE COULD PRESENT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS HERE. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME FEEDBACK AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. SO IF WE COULD GET THROUGH AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, STOP ME ALONG THE WAY. BUT IF WE COULD COME BACK AT THE END AND DO THAT DISCUSSION AT THE END, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US AS WE

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THERE WE GO. OKAY. AS YOU KNOW, BACK IN JUNE OF 2025, WE HAD A LARGE LEGISLATIVE BILL, HB SIX, THAT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW. WE CAME TO YOU IN A WORKSHOP AND EXPLAINED, TALKED THROUGH SOME OF THOSE PENDING CHANGES THAT WERE HEADED OUR WAY. THEN ON JULY 21ST, WE CONDUCTED A STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT FOCUS GROUP THAT CONSISTED OF BOARD MEMBERS, PRINCIPALS, SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO GATHER FEEDBACK AND IDEAS. AS WE IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE CHANGES TO OUR STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT. SO AS WE WORK THROUGH THESE, AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGE HERE. AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD BECAUSE THERE'S SOME DECISIONS TO BE MADE ON THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO AS WE GO FORWARD OFFICIALLY. SO I JUST HAVE AN OUTLINE HERE. YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT THAT WAS LOADED INTO THE BOARD BOOK.

SO IF WITH THE PAGE NUMBERS WE'RE GOING TO GO ALONG HERE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE LANGUAGE AS PROPOSED. AND THEN IF THERE NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTMENTS, WE'LL MAKE NOTES OF THAT AND BE ABLE TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. AT A LATER DATE FOR APPROVAL. SO BEGINNING HERE ON PAGE EIGHT, I'M GOING TO FOLLOW ALONG AS WELL. PAGE EIGHT DISCUSSES THE GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS OR THE ABILITY FOR STUDENTS THAT ARE PLACED AT DAAP. PREVIOUSLY, STUDENTS THAT WERE ASSIGNED TO DAP AND FINISHED THAT SCHOOL YEAR STILL ENROLLED AT DAP, DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR GRADUATION CEREMONY WITH THEIR HOME CAMPUS. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE, AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR ABOUT THAT. AND SO THROUGH FEEDBACK FROM THE CAMPUS PRINCIPALS, THEY WANT THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND SO ON PAGE EIGHT, YOU SEE THAT THAT IS REFLECTED THERE ABOUT MIDDLE OF THE PAGE, WHERE IT SAYS STUDENTS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE TO GRADUATE AND ARE ASSIGNED TO DAP AT THE TIME OF GRADUATION, THE LAST DAY OF THEIR PLACEMENT WILL BE THE LAST INSTRUCTIONAL DAY OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND THE STUDENT WILL BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE. NOW, ONE IMPORTANT NOTE THERE IS THAT UNLESS IT'S OTHERWISE SPECIFIED BY THE PRINCIPAL OR THE HEARING OFFICER, WHEN THAT PLACEMENT IS MADE, THEY CAN MAKE A DESIGNATION TO SAY THAT BECAUSE OF THE INFRACTION, IT MAY BE SO SEVERE THAT THE STUDENT DOES NOT NEED TO PARTICIPATE. IF THAT'S THE CASE, IT CAN BE THAT CAN BE DETERMINED AT THAT TIME. PAGE TEN. HB SIX MADE THE ADDITION OF SOME LANGUAGE THAT MAKES IT A STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT VIOLATION TO ENGAGE IN BEHAVIOR THAT IS CONSIDERED ANTISEMITISM. THAT IS REFLECTED HERE ON PAGE TEN. IT'S ALSO REFLECTED IN OUR IN OUR GLOSSARY AS WHAT THE DEFINITION OF THAT IS. SO THAT THAT IS CLEAR. I KEEP CLICKING I'M NOT GOING FORWARD YET. PAGE 12 I BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE AREAS WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS. THIS IS THE PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE POLICY. WE ALL SAW THAT HB 1481 WAS SIGNED INTO LAW JUST RECENTLY. THAT STATES THAT STUDENTS CAN NO LONGER USE THOSE CELL PHONE DEVICES, PERSONAL DEVICES IN SCHOOL. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE WRITTEN INTO THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT HERE IS COMPLIANT WITH THE TASB LANGUAGE AND COMPLIANT WITH WITH HOUSE BILL 1481. IT IS ALSO ON THE END OF BEING MOST RESTRICTIVE, I BELIEVE. AND SO I NEED SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU. WE NEED SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU AS TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH THIS. AS YOU SEE HERE, THE SECONDARY STUDENTS, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WERE ALREADY COVERED THERE. THERE'S REALLY NO CHANGE IN THAT POLICY BECAUSE OF THE HONOR POUCHES THAT WE USE LAST YEAR. THOSE ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE STATE LAW. SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT AS IT IS. THE ELEMENTARY STUDENTS, HOWEVER, THERE'S A BIG CHANGE. THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS ELEMENTARY STUDENTS CANNOT BRING

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THAT THAT SURROUND THAT THAT REMOVAL BY THAT TEACHER. SO WE SEE THERE REPEATEDLY INTERFERES WITH THE TEACHER'S ABILITY TO TEACH CLASS OR WITH OTHER STUDENTS TO LEARN. THE STUDENT DEMONSTRATES BEHAVIOR THAT IS UNRULY, DISRUPTIVE, ABUSIVE TOWARDS THE TEACHER OR OTHER STUDENTS IN THE CLASSROOM, OR ENGAGES IN CONDUCT THAT IS BULLYING. THE TEACHER HAS THE ABILITY TO REMOVE THAT STUDENT. YOU CAN SEE DOWN THERE, THERE. THERE ARE SOME STEPS THAT ARE DETAILED HERE THAT THE CAMPUS BEHAVIORAL COORDINATOR DOES HAVE TO CONDUCT A MEETING WITH CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION, THE TEACHER, THE PARENT AND THE STUDENT TO DISCUSS THE INCIDENT THAT TRIGGERED THIS. AND THAT MUST BE DONE WITHIN THREE DAYS OF THE NOTIFICATION IN WRITING BY THE TEACHER. DURING THAT TIME, THE STUDENT CANNOT REMAIN IN THAT CLASSROOM. THEY HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER CLASSROOM, ES BE SUSPENDED OUT OF SCHOOL, OR BE MOVED TO DAP. THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE 23, DETAILS THE RETURN OF THAT STUDENT TO THE CLASSROOM. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT IF IT'S ASSAULT, AGGRAVATED AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, SEXUAL ASSAULT, OR AGGRAVATED SEXUAL ASSAULT, THEN THE TEACHER HAS TO HAVE WRITTEN AGREEMENT FOR THAT STUDENT TO BE RETURNED TO CLASS.

IF IT DOESN'T FIT INTO ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES, THAT PLACEMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE WILL MEET AND DETERMINE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE FOR THIS. FOR THIS CHILD, THEY CAN BE RETURNED TO THE CLASSROOM, OR THEY CAN BE MOVED TO ANOTHER LOCATION, ANOTHER CLASSROOM, OR OTHER STEPS CAN BE TAKEN. IF THEY ARE RETURNED TO THAT CLASSROOM. MUST BE THERE MUST BE A PLAN IN PLACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HELP MITIGATE THESE BEHAVIORS AND SUPPORT THAT TEACHER IN THAT PROCESS. AND YOU

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IF NOT, THEN THOSE STUDENTS WILL BE WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO CAMPUS ON AN ES PLACEMENT. THE US ON THE SAME PAGE TOWARD THE BOTTOM. WE STILL HAVE A THREE DAY CAP ON OSS FOR EVERY STUDENT. HOWEVER, THE CAP FOR ES HAS BEEN LIFTED. THOSE STUDENTS CAN BE PLACED IN ES INDEFINITELY NOW, AND IF THEY ARE PLACED IN THERE, WE HAVE TO DO A REVIEW OF THAT STUDENT'S ACADEMIC PROGRESS AND BEHAVIORAL PROGRESS. EVERY TEN DAYS. WE'RE WORKING INTERNALLY AGAIN TO PROVIDE SOME CHECK MARKS SO THAT IF WHEN A STUDENT HITS DAY EIGHT IN ES, IT IT PROVIDES A FLAG SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GO IN AND CONDUCT THAT REVIEW AT DAY TEN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH THAT PIECE. ALSO, YOU SEE THE NOTE THERE THAT STUDENTS THAT ARE RECEIVING SERVICES, WHETHER WHETHER THEY BE BEHAVIORAL OR ACADEMIC EDUCATIONAL SERVICES, THEY MUST RECEIVE THOSE SERVICES WHILE IN ES. AND THAT IS DOCUMENTED. WE HAVE THE PROGRAM CALLED SMART ES AND THAT WE DOCUMENT THOSE THOSE CONTINUED SUPPORTS THROUGH THERE. SO AGAIN, AT THAT TEN DAY, TEN DAY MARK, THE CAMPUS PRINCIPAL IS GOING TO REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOCUMENTATION IS IN PLACE AS WELL. PAGE 26. WE HAVE A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEY'RE BEING NOW SUPPORTED IN STATE LAW ON PAGE ACTUALLY ON PAGE 27 AT THE TOP THERE, THERE IS A PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS THE STUDENT MAY BE PLACED IN RDAP IF THE SUPERINTENDENT OR THE DESIGNEE HAS REASONABLE BELIEF THAT THE STUDENT ENGAGED IN THE IN THE CONDUCT OCCURS OFF SCHOOL PROPERTY AND IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH A SCHOOL SPONSORED EVENT, THEY CAN STILL BE MOVED TO A DISCRETIONARY RDAP PLACEMENT. THIS WAS NOT THE CASE BEFORE. OBVIOUSLY WE HAD THE HAD TO BE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF THE SCHOOL OR AT A SCHOOL. RELATED EVENT. THIS IS NOW NOT THE CASE. IF WE GET INFORMATION THAT THESE THINGS ARE OCCURRING, WE CAN INVESTIGATE AND MOVE A CHILD TO RDAP AND GET THEM OUT OF THAT REGULAR SCHOOL SETTING, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT AFFECTS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THAT CAMPUS. PAGE 28. WE SEE A CHANGE TO OUR RDAP HEARING PROCESS. WE ARE MOVING FROM A TWO TIER SYSTEM TO A ONE TIER HEARING SYSTEM. THE CAMPUS ADMINISTRATOR WILL NOW BE THE DISTRICT OR THE CAMPUS LEVEL HEARING OFFICER AND MAKE THE DETERMINATION FOR PLACEMENT AT RDAP. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CAMPUS LEVEL CONFERENCE OR CAMPUS LEVEL HEARING TO SEND THEM TOWARDS TO A DISTRICT LEVEL HEARING. IT WILL BE ONE STEP, AND THAT CAMPUS PRINCIPAL WILL MAKE THAT PLACEMENT AT THAT TIME. IT WILL SHORTEN THE TIMELINE A LITTLE BIT, AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME RECOMMENDATION MADE THAT WE MOVE TO THAT SYSTEM VERSUS WHERE WE WERE. PAGE 38. WE TALKED ABOUT THE VIRTUAL THE VIRTUAL EDUCATION FOR STUDENTS THAT ARE PLACED, EXPELLED OR PLACED AT JJAEP. THOSE STUDENTS, IF JJ CANNOT ACCEPT THEM, JJ CANNOT ACCEPT THEM OR SENDS THEM BACK EARLY RATHER THAN PUT THEM IN A RDAP FACE TO FACE SITUATION, WE CAN PUT THEM IN A VIRTUAL EDUCATE THEM IN A VIRTUAL EDUCATION SETTING, AND THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT ON THAT CAMPUS WHILE THEY FULFILL THOSE DAYS. THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF

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AND I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, TOO. WE MADE THE MADE THE CHANGE FROM CALLING IT JUST CELL PHONES TO PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICES. AND SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN HERE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS MADE THAT CHANGE. AND AS WELL AS THE WORDING AND LANGUAGE THAT'S IN 1481. SO AGAIN, THE SECONDARY SCHOOL COMMUNICATION DEVICES PLAN HAS NOT CHANGED. BUT THE ELEMENTARY HAS. YOU SEE THAT RECOMMENDATION THERE AGAIN THAT STUDENTS SHALL NOT BRING OR POSSESS THE COMMUNICATION DEVICE WHILE AT SCHOOL. THE ONLY CHANGE THAT WE SEE HERE FOR THE SECONDARY STUDENTS IS THAT IF THEY BRING DEVICES THAT CANNOT FIT IN THAT YONDR POUCH, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED. LET ME BACK UP.

THEY CANNOT BRING DEVICES THAT CANNOT FIT IN THERE. YONDR POUCH. OKAY. IF IT'S TOO LARGE TO BE LOCKED IN THEIR POUCH, THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE IN POSSESSION OF THOSE ITEMS AT SCHOOL. SPEAKING WITH WITH CAMPUS PRINCIPALS AND WHAT I SAW MYSELF BEING AT CHAPARRAL HIGH SCHOOL LAST YEAR WAS THAT STUDENTS WERE COMING, LOCKING THEIR CELL PHONE, THEIR THEIR EARBUDS, THEIR EAR PODS, THEIR IWATCH IN THEIR YONDR POUCH. I'M GOOD AND COMPLIANT. THEY WOULD GO SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE, PULL OUT THEIR TABLET, PUT ON THEIR BIG HEADPHONES BECAUSE THOSE DON'T FIT IN THE YONDER POUCH, AND HAVING THE SAME ACCESS TO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO PROTECT THEM FROM. SO THOSE DEVICES WERE NOT BEING USED FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, AND THEY WERE CAUSING THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE SAW IN THE PAST. SO THAT IS THERE. IF THEY CANNOT LOCK THEM UP, THEY CANNOT BRING THEM TO SCHOOL. POLICY. EXHIBIT C IS THE DRESS CODE. THE ONLY, ONLY CHANGE WE MADE TO THE DRESS CODE HERE IS YOU SEE, NUMBER 11, WE ENTERED THE LANGUAGE FOR THE CLEAR AND MESH BACKPACKS SO THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND EXPECTATIONS THERE. AND THEN EXHIBIT D DISCUSSES THE E-CIGARETTE AND CIGARETTE POLICY. SO WE TOOK THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD FROM THE LAST WORKSHOP, MADE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T JUST LIMIT THIS TO VAPING AND E-CIGS. BUT IF A STUDENT ON FIRST OFFENSE IS FOUND TO BE IN POSSESSION OF OR USE OF, AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DESIGNATION, POSSESSION OF OR USE OF, THEN THEY WILL BE PLACED IN ES FOR TEN DAYS ON THE FIRST OFFENSE. DURING THAT TIME. THEY DO HAVE AN ANTI VAPE CURRICULUM THAT THEY WILL THAT THEY WILL COMPLETE. IF THEY GET CAUGHT A SECOND TIME. THAT IS A DAP PLACEMENT. BUT IF THEY ARE CAUGHT SELLING, DELIVERING OR DISTRIBUTING ONE OF THOSE DEVICES THE FIRST TIME, IT IS A MANDATORY DAP PLACEMENT. OKAY. AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES OTHER TOBACCO. I WANT TO SAY AGAIN, THE OTHER TOBACCO ITEMS, NOT JUST E-CIGS AND VAPES. OKAY, I THINK I HAVE A SLIDE. ANY QUESTIONS? YES MADAM CAPITO. HOW MANY BUSSES? AND MAYBE THAT'S AN UNFAIR QUESTION THAT DON'T HAVE THE SEAT BELTS, BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING THAT SOMETIMES IT'S REQUIRED, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT. HOW ARE WE COMMUNICATING THAT TO PARENTS AND STUDENTS SO THAT SINCE THEY MAY BE ON A BUS ONE DAY THAT HAS SEATBELTS AND NOT ON ONE THAT ANOTHER DAY, I ASKED MR. WILSON AND HE SAID ABOUT 4,040% OR SO OF OUR FLEET IS EQUIPPED WITH SEAT BELTS, SEAT BELTS. AND SO AGAIN, EVERYTHING THAT WE PURCHASE FROM THIS POINT FORWARD WILL BE EQUIPPED. BUT AS WE AGE OUT THAT THAT FLEET. SO SOMEWHERE AROUND 60% IS NOT EQUIPPED WITH SEATBELTS AT THIS TIME. SO THEN ONE DAY THEY COULD BE ON A BUS THAT HAS THEM AND ONE DAY THEY COULDN'T. AND SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE OUR BUS DRIVERS COULD JUST MAYBE DO A REMINDER AS THEY GET ON TO PUT THEIR SEATBELT ON. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M REALLY WITH ALL OF THESE IS WITH THESE UPDATES. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT HAS DONE REALLY GREAT ABOUT THE BACKPACKS, BUT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE SOME OF THIS IS GETTING OUT TO PARENTS BECAUSE THEN IT'S GOING TO BE I DIDN'T KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT SEAT BELT STUFF. AND SOME OF THOSE IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT COMMUNICATION IS GETTING OUT THERE. AND WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THE BACKPACKS. I KNOW THAT, MR. WILSON. THAT WAS A POINT OF CONTENTION WITH HIM, AND I KNOW HE'S INCLUDED IT IN ALL OF HIS ORIENTATIONS WITH PARENTS AND STUDENTS TO MAKE THAT A POINT. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE AND NOT GETTING PENALIZED, PENALIZED FOR NOT KNOWING SOMETHING AND KNOW IT'S IN THE BOOK. BUT WE NEED TO SAY SOMETHING OUT LOUD. YES, MA'AM. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. SIR. SO THE CODE OF CONDUCT, IT'S A GREAT BOOK FOR ALL OF OUR PARENTS AND OUR STUDENTS AND OUR STAFF. BUT WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT IS IF WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT. YES. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE CELL PHONES AND ELECTRONIC DEVICES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WHEN AND WHEN I WAS OUT AT FORT HOOD, A WARRANT OFFICER CONFRONTED ME, NOT CONFRONTED ME, HAD A DISCUSSION WITH ME ABOUT THE YONDR POUCHES AND HOW THE CHILDREN WERE MANIPULATING IT, HOW THEY WERE PUTTING TWO STICKY PAD NOTES, THINGS IN

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I MEAN THE FIRST OFFENSE THE PHONES CONFISCATED KEPT IN A IN THE OFFICE. THE OFFENSES NOTED.

THEY WRITE A REFERRAL. SO IT'S DOCUMENTED IN THE IN THE STUDENT'S DISCIPLINARY PARENT IS CONTACTED AND THEN THE STUDENT IS RETURNED THE DEVICE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AFTER THE SECOND OFFENSE, BASICALLY THE SAME THING, BUT THE PARENT HAS TO COME PICK UP THE DEVICE AGAIN. IT'S NOTED. AND THEN ON THE THIRD OFFENSE AGAIN, THE PARENT HAS TO COME PICK IT UP, AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DISCIPLINARY PROCESS. SO AGAIN THE REFERRAL IT'S THE ACTION CODE IS 201. AND THEY ARE ASSIGNED A DAY OF AFTER SCHOOL OR LUNCH DETENTION. AND THEN THE THIRD OFFENSE THE STUDENT IS ASSIGNED TO A DAY OF SATURDAY DETENTION. AGAIN THE PARENT HAS TO COME PICK IT UP. AND THEN THE FOURTH OFFENSE, THE STUDENT IS ASSIGNED A DAY OF EXCESS, AND THEN THE PARENT HAS TO COME PICK UP THE PHONE. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A FIFTH OFFENSE AND A SIXTH OFFENSE, AND IT CAN ULTIMATELY END UP WITH A PLACEMENT. IF THE STUDENT IS NOT COMPLYING WITH OUR CELL PHONE POLICY, I CAN TELL YOU BEING AT THE BACK DOOR. YES, MA'AM. AS SOON AS WE PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR STUDENTS, THEY'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY AROUND IT. THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE CHILDREN. AND SO STAYING AHEAD AND WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE DID FIND I WOULD PERSONALLY CHECK STUDENTS THAT HAD THEIR THEIR YONDER POUCH. IT WAS LOCKED. AND YOU COULD TELL THERE WAS A PHONE INSIDE AND THEN BUT THEIR BACKPACK HIT AT THE DETECTION SYSTEM. AND SO WHEN WE DID THE BACK SEARCH, WE FOUND ANOTHER DEVICE. THEY OFTENTIMES WOULD HAVE A LITTLE SMILE. THEY GOT CAUGHT. AND SO THEN THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD MOVE INTO THIS AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS. AND THE CONSEQUENCES ARE BEING APPLIED FOR THAT VIOLATION. THANK YOU. MR. WELLS.

AND SO I LOVE THE CELL PHONE POLICY. I APPRECIATE WHAT THE STATE HAS DONE. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR. I THINK IT'S PUT IN PLACE TO HELP ELIMINATE DISRUPTIVE DISRUPTIONS TO THE EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT. AND SO LIKE WHEN YOU TELL ME, HEY, WE'VE WE'VE SPENT TIME CATCHING SOMEONE WHO HAS A PHONE IN THEIR BAG GOING IN THE DOOR, DELAYING EVERYONE ELSE GETTING IN, I WOULD HOPE WE'RE NOT JUST SPENDING TONS AND TONS OF TIME, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THEY REALLY HAVEN'T DISTRACTED FROM THE EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT. AND SO TO I'M A LITTLE SKEPTICAL ON HOW MUCH WE PUSH ON TEACHERS, PRINCIPALS. IT'S A GREAT THING. IT'S A GREAT TOOL TO HELP MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS IN THE CLASSROOM. BUT THE MAIN THING FOR ME IS I WANT MY TEACHERS FOCUSED ON TEACHING OUR KIDS. I WANT OUR PRINCIPALS AND I, I 100% SUPPORT IT, BUT I'M JUST GOING LIKE WE COULD DISTRACT FROM EVERYTHING ELSE. AND THAT'S A FULL TIME JOB. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHOSE JOB THAT IS. OH, MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. SO WE'RE NOT CHECKING AT THE CLASSROOM DOOR. WE'RE SAYING WHEN THEIR POINT OF ENTRY TO THE CAMPUS IN THE MORNING. AND SO WHEN THEY COME THROUGH, WHEN THAT WITH THAT BACKPACK HITS ON OUR DETECTOR, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. IT COULD BE ANYTHING. SO THAT SEARCH ULTIMATELY WOULD TURN UP A CELL PHONE. THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD MOVE INTO THAT. BUT YES, THAT THAT'S OUR MORNING ROUTINE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING EVERY DAY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S CELL PHONES OR OR TRYING TO FIND OTHER THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T BE ON THAT CAMPUS. THAT'S PART OF OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY MEASURES AT THE CAMPUS LEVEL.

BUT I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT THAT THAT THE DISTRACTION IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPACT HERE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. MR. HEY. MR. MIKE, I NOTICED IN I'M FOLLOWING THE PAGE NUMBERS

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THAT'S A MANDATORY PLACEMENT OF DAP. BUT THC SOLD OVER THE COUNTER IS NOT REALLY A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE, IS IT, JOEY? I GUESS THAT'S OKAY. WELL. THANK YOU. NO, I'M SORRY TO BOTHER YOU. OKAY. I'M GOOD, THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY. WE GOT A LITTLE CUED UP LINE HERE FIRST, MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU SIR. FIRST OF ALL, MR. WELLS AND TEAM, THANK YOU FOR COMPILING ALL THIS IN THE MIDNIGHT HOUR. SHORT NOTICE WITH ALL THE LEGAL MANDATES THAT ARE NOW LAW. KUDOS TO OUR BOARD FOR THE YONDER POUCHES AND BEING THE PIONEERS TO GET OUT THERE AND GET IT GOING FIRST. NOW IT'S REQUIRED ACROSS THE STATE PAGE. MY QUESTION DEALS WITH PAGE 28. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU MENTIONED GOING FROM A TWO TIER PROCESS TO A ONE TIER. AND SO NOW THE CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION MEANING THE PRINCIPAL HAS THE FINAL SAY ON PLACEMENT FOR DAP, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. AND IS THERE INCLUDED IN THIS BOOK AN APPEAL PROCESS IN WRITING? SO FOR THE ACCORDING TO ACCORDING TO BOARD BOARD POLICY, WE'RE LOOKING AT F AND G. AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY. YES. THE GRIEVANCE POLICY GRIEVANCE PROCESS WILL BE FOLLOWED AT THAT POINT IF THEY DISAGREE WITH THE PLACEMENT. OKAY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO

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THIS IS THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT. IT'S A GUIDE. BUT FUNDAMENTALLY WHAT IT IS, IT'S OUR EXPECTATION. THIS IS OUR EXPECTATION. SO WE SIT UP HERE AND WE WASTE UNGODLY AMOUNTS OF TIME AND ENERGY WRITING THIS, AND THEN WE DON'T ENFORCE IT. IT'S RIDICULOUS. IT'S A NONSENSICAL WASTE OF TIME. IF WE DON'T ENFORCE WHAT WE HAVE HERE. WE'RE SAYING THIS IS NOT OUR EXPECTATION. OUR EXPECTATION IS SOMETHING LESS. SO EVERYTHING THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT COMES FROM THAT POINT. THIS IS OUR EXPECTATION. WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE HIGHER EXPECTATIONS OF OUR STUDENTS, OF OUR PARENTS, OF OUR STAFF, AND OF THE PEOPLE SITTING UP HERE ON THE DAIS. PERIOD. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS, THE CULTURAL PROBLEMS IN THIS DISTRICT. AND IF WE SIT UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT THIS AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS IN THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT, AND THEN PRINCIPALS ARE LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO ENFORCE YONDR POUCHES, RIGHT. YONDR POUCH IS ALREADY A I DON'T CARE. THE BOARD HAS SAID THAT THIS IS THE POLICY. THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS SAID THIS IS THE POLICY. AND I'M NOT LIKE YOU'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF ME. I KNOW YOU DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY, BUT IT'S THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE ADHERED TO. AND THIS IS A TOOL THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU DON'T DON'T TELL ME HOW BAD THE KIDS ARE. AND DON'T TELL ME HOW YOU CAN'T CONTROL YOUR CLASS WHEN YOU'RE NOT, WHEN YOU'RE NOT USING A TOOL THAT WE GAVE YOU.

SO WE'RE SITTING HERE AND I'LL START WITH PHONES. IF A STUDENT REFUSES TO GO THROUGH METAL DETECTORS, HERE'S THE ANSWER. HAVE A NICE DAY. TAKE AN ABSENCE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES. AND IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO COMPLY WITH WHAT THE CAMPUS PRINCIPAL IS CHARGED WITH KEEPING THIS PLACE SAFE, THEN HAVE A NICE DAY AND WE CAN KEEP DOING THAT. NOW, THE OTHER THING TOO, IS WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS, AND MR. WELLS, YOU MENTIONED, WELL, THEY THEY GET CAUGHT WITH IT. AND IF THEY'RE KIND OF SHEEPISH ABOUT IT, TO ME THAT'S INSUBORDINATION. YOU KNEW THE RULE. AND IT'S NOT LIKE, OH MAN, I FORGOT TO, YOU KNOW, I FORGOT TO TAKE IT OUT OF MY POCKET. SORRY. MY BAD. IT'S DECEPTION. AND AGAIN, IF THAT'S OUR EXPECTATION, THEN JUST LET'S PUT IT IN HERE. LET'S JUST SAY IF YOU'RE DECEIVING TEACHERS, IT'S OKAY. AS LONG AS YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE KIND OF EMBARRASSED ABOUT IT. THAT'S OKAY. IT'S NONSENSE. THAT SHOULD BE INSUBORDINATION. THAT'S SOMETHING. SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. SO I'M. I'M OFF MY YONDER POUCH. SOAPBOX. DO WE WANT TO KIND OF KEEP IT ON THAT OR CAN I CAN WE TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS? IF IT'S STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. SO PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT. AND I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 18. TO BE CLEAR THAT IS AN OPTION. THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. RIGHT OKAY. AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WHEN WE WERE AT THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT MEETING, THE NOTION THAT WE SHOULD NOW ALLOW PARENTS TO GET INVOLVED WHEN THE KID'S GETTING PLACED IN DIEPPE AND GIVING THEM SOME WHATEVER IS THE THEIR BEHAVIORAL AGREEMENT, BEHAVIORAL AGREEMENT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED MONTHS BEFORE. AND WE'RE GOING TO I THINK AT THE NEXT MEETING WE HAVE DIEPPE ON THE AGENDA. AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ME RANT AND RAVE ABOUT IT THEN. BUT WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH ARE WE SAYING, WELL, NOW THAT YOUR KIDS IN DIEPPE. SO HE'S PROBABLY GONE THROUGH, SHE'S GONE THROUGH HOW MANY LEVELS OF DISCIPLINE TO GET TO THIS NOW, PARENTS, LET'S WHY DON'T YOU GET INVOLVED? AND THEN OH, BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU TIME OFF, RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO LESSEN YOUR SENTENCE BECAUSE THE PARENT CAME IN AT THE LAST MINUTE. NONSENSE. WE SHOULD NOT DO IT. IF PARENTS WANT TO GET INVOLVED, THEY CAN GET INVOLVED WAY, WAY, WAY BEFORE THAT. WAY WAY, WAY BEFORE. ADMINISTRATORS, TEACHERS. EVERYONE HERE IS HAVING TO EXPEND TIME, MONEY, ENERGY TO DEAL WITH A KID WHO CAN'T BEHAVE HIMSELF IN A PARENTS NOT INVOLVED. PARENTS SHOULD NOT ABSOLUTELY AGAINST THAT. TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH IT. I THINK WE SHOULD STRIKE IT. DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT? I'LL KEEP GOING. OKAY, MADAM, I JUST TO TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. THE ONLY THING THAT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THINGS LIKE IF A CHILD BRINGS A CIGARETTE FOR THE FIRST TIME AND THEY HAVE NO OTHER DISCIPLINE HISTORY, I DO WANT THE PARENT TO

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YEP. DOCTOR OSBORNE, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK. YES, I HAVE, THANK YOU. WITH REGARD TO THE CELL PHONE PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE ON PAGE 59 AND EXHIBIT B, THAT IS A REFLECTION OF OUR PROCESS WHEN WE WERE EARLY ADOPTERS. I DO THINK IT IS WORTHY FOR US TO BRING BACK A PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE FOR CELL PHONES THAT IS MORE REFLECTIVE OF IT BEING BREAKING THE LAW. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST HERE FOR ONE, TWO, THREE, UP TO 5 OR 6 OFFENSES THAT WE COULD GO IN A MORE STRINGENT DIRECTION FOR. SO EXPECT THAT TO COME BACK FROM THE TEAM. SO IT RE-EMPHASIZES THE NOTION THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT IT. MY SECOND COMMENT WAS WITH REGARD TO GUMMIES. I NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE SAYING THIS INTO A MICROPHONE, BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT'S CRIMINAL AS A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE VERSUS WHAT'S ACTIONABLE AS A DISCIPLINE CONSEQUENCE. AND REGARDLESS OF THAT OUTCOME OF A TOXICOLOGY TOXICITY REPORT, IF IT HAS THC IN IT, WHETHER IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL OR BEYOND, WE WOULD TAKE A DISCIPLINE ACTION FOR THAT EDIBLE. AND IT'S NAMED AS EDIBLE IN THE SYSTEM. THE LAST THING THAT I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GETS REITERATED FOR THE PUBLIC IS THAT THE EXPECTATION TO MR. MINTZ'S POINT IS THAT THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT IS FOLLOWED AND IMPLEMENTED. THAT IS TRUE FOR STUDENTS, THAT IS TRUE FOR OUR TEACHERS, AND THAT IS DEFINITELY BEEN CONVEYED AS AN EXPECTATION TO OUR PRINCIPALS. WITH THAT IN MIND, WE PROBABLY DO NEED TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD WITH AN INCLUSION OF A COMMENT OR STEP THAT WILL BE TAKEN WHEN A STUDENT IS REFUSING TO FOLLOW OUR SECURITY PROCESSES. SO EXPECT THOSE UPDATES, PLEASE. MR. MR. RENOIR. MR. I SEE THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM EXPECTATION OF

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MADAM SECRETARY, ARE YOU GOOD? YES. MR. RAINWATER, I FOUND IT ON PAGE ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AUTHORITY AND JURISDICTION ON PAGE FIVE. ON BOARD BOOK, PAGE 29. IT SAYS WALK THROUGH METAL DETECTORS SHOULD BE SET UP AND USED A MINIMUM OF ONCE PER SIX WEEKS. THE CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION SHOULD OPERATE. AND I'M ASKING THE QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A CLUE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A STANDARD OR I JUST DON'T KNOW. BUT WE WANT TO DO THERE OR HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE SCHOOL DAY. BELIEVE THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT OF THERE. CORRECT. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE PROCEDURE THAT WE'RE USING. WE'RE DOING DAILY CHECKS AT THIS POINT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. MISS. MR. WELLS, FOR ME, I AM. WE HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, PROCEDURES. MY BIG DEAL IS THERE'S POLICY AND THEN THERE'S ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT IT IN REALISTIC IMPLEMENTATION OF IT, BECAUSE THE ONE THAT I'LL GO TO AND FIDELITY ACROSS THE BOARD, I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IS MAN. THAT'S THAT'S A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE I'M JUST GOING TO GO TO THE DRESS CODE. I KNOW WHAT THE DRESS CODE READS. AND I'M TELLING YOU, I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT'S IMPLEMENTED. AND SO I'M JUST SO HOW DO WE AND IT'S UNFAIR TO YOU, BUT YOU HAPPEN TO BE IN THE SEAT. SO I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE.

BUT I JUST THINK WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO ESTABLISH REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT SOME OF THE STUFF I

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WELL, AND I'M NOT SAYING UNREALISTIC, I'M JUST SAYING THERE, IF YOU SHOW UP ON ONE OF THESE CAMPUSES, I WON'T NAME ANY CAMPUSES AND THE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS I'M GOING THAT'S THAT'S LIKE A WHOLE ENTOURAGE TO CORRECT THAT. DOCTOR OSBORNE, IT IT DEFINITELY STARTS WITH HOW A SCHOOL YEAR BEGINS. AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR CAMPUS PRINCIPALS THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER. I STOOD IN FRONT OF THE PRINCIPALS ON, I BELIEVE, JUNE 9TH AND DISCUSSED THE DRESS CODE SLIDE AND OUR EXPECTATIONS MOVING FORWARD. WHAT WE CAN EXPECT AT OUR CAMPUSES IS FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE DRESS CODE ON THE MONDAY AFTER SCHOOL STARTS, WHICH IS AUGUST THE 18TH. WE'VE DISCUSSED AND WORKED WITH THE PRINCIPAL SUPERVISORS TO MAKE SURE EACH CAMPUS HAS A SYSTEM AND THE STAFFING TO STOP STUDENTS AT THE DOOR. THERE SHOULD NOT BE STUDENTS GETTING TO FIFTH, SIXTH, SEVENTH PERIOD WITHOUT BEING ADDRESSED. AND WHAT SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT OCCURS. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, SO LAST YEAR, AN ADMINISTRATOR AT ONE OF THE CAMPUSES TOLD ME THAT IT WAS THE PRINCIPAL'S DECISION OR PHILOSOPHY NOT TO WORRY ABOUT THE YONDR POUCHES BECAUSE IT WAS JUST TOO MUCH. IT WAS A CRAZY POLICY. IT WAS JUST TOO MUCH.

AND I GET IT. I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE IN AN ENVIRONMENT YOU YOU WANT TO JUST KEEP GOING. BUT IF OUR STAFF DOESN'T IMPLEMENT OUR POLICIES OR UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS WHAT WE WANT, THEN THE STUDENTS AND THE PARENTS AREN'T GOING TO EVEN PAY ATTENTION EITHER. SO AND DOCTOR BUCKLEY AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DRESS CODE THING. IT DRIVES ME NUTS BECAUSE WE SEND OUR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL TO LEARN. AND PART OF THAT PROCESS IS NOT JUST WRITING RITHMETIC AND HISTORY. IT'S ALSO LEARNING TO BE A DISCIPLINED INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES. AND WE SET UP STRUCTURES FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE CHOICES AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS. AND SO IF WE WANT TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE DISCIPLINE IN OUR SCHOOLS, IT STARTS WITH SOMETHING REALLY SIMPLE, REALLY, REALLY SIMPLE AS THE DRESS CODE, AS MAKING YOUR BED IN THE MORNING WHEN I LEAVE MY HOUSE. IT'S A SIMPLE, SIMPLE LITTLE TOOL THAT WE TEACH CHILDREN TO BE DISCIPLINED AND TO FOLLOW THE RULES. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WE'RE DISCIPLINING THEM. I'M TALKING ABOUT THEM HAVING SELF DISCIPLINE. THAT ALSO GOES TO OUR STAFF. BECAUSE I WAS AN EMPLOYEE, I AM AN EMPLOYEE, AND I CAN LOOK AT THE RULES SOMETIMES AND SAY, OH, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. BUT UNTIL THE RULE CHANGES, I NEED TO ADHERE TO IT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO GET ACROSS TO EVERYONE. AND SO WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE PHONES, WHEN IT COMES TO ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF, CODE IS THE VERY THAT'S THE VERY BEGINNING OF OUR PROCESS INTO OUR, OUR SCHOOL. AND IN MY OPINION, IF THEY GO TO FIRST PERIOD CLASS AND THEY'RE OUT OF UNIFORM, THE TEACHER SENDS THEM TO THE OFFICE. AND YES, IT'S A IT MIGHT SLOW DOWN THE EDUCATION PROCESS A LITTLE BIT FOR THAT STUDENT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE WHOLE CLASS. BUT WHEN JOHNNY IS ALLOWED TO SIT IN A CLASS OUT OF UNIFORM OR OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH OUR DRESS CODE, THEN THE NEXT KID IS GOING TO BE AND THE NEXT KID'S GOING TO BE, AND THE NEXT KID'S GOING TO BE, BECAUSE WE HAVE LOST CONTROL OF SOMETHING SO SIMPLE. AND THAT'S A DRESS CODE. SO IT'S CERTAINLY A PET PEEVE OF MINE IF WE'RE GOING TO SET BOUNDARIES, IF WE'RE GOING TO SET POLICY, THEN WE AS AND THE STAFF DOESN'T GET TO SIT THERE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO HAVE A WORKAROUND, THEY DON'T GET TO SIT THERE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT AND WHAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO IMPLEMENT. IT IS A POLICY. THANK YOU, MR. WELLS. I BELIEVE IN OUR TEACHERS. I BELIEVE IN OUR PRINCIPALS. I BELIEVE IN OUR

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UNDERSTOOD. CAN HAVE A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE UNDERSTOOD FOR THEM. WE'LL CHECK THE LANGUAGE ON THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ON THE FLOOR? I'LL JUST I'LL JUST KEEP GOING. OKAY. I'M I'M ON LOOKING AT PAGE 27. AND IF YOU COULD JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING FOR ME, I JUST I READ IT LIKE TEN TIMES AND I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT. WHERE IT SAYS AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE, IT'S LIKE THE SECOND FULL PARAGRAPH. THE CBC MAY PLACE A STUDENT IN A DAP FOR OFF CAMPUS CONDUCT, FOR WHICH THE DAP PLACEMENT IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT IF THE ADMINISTRATOR DOES NOT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE CONDUCT BEFORE THE FIRST ANNIVERSARY DATE OF THE CONDUCT WHEN THE CONDUCT OCCURS. SO AS IF YOU FIND OUT ABOUT SOMETHING A YEAR, UP TO A YEAR LATER, YOU CAN PUT THEM IN DAP. I'M SEEKING CLARIFICATION ON THAT AS WELL. I CAN ANSWER THAT. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE RECEIVE INFORMATION. A LOT OF TIMES THESE INCIDENTS OCCUR OBVIOUSLY OFF CAMPUS. SO WE WOULD RECEIVE WHAT'S CALLED A 1527 RECORD. WE HAVE UP TO A YEAR TO RESPOND. SO IF IT COMES IN A YEAR LATER THAT BILLY WAS ARRESTED THEN WE DO NOT, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT. IT HAS TO BE WITHIN A CALENDAR YEAR FOR US TO RECEIVE THAT. THEN WE ISSUE CONSEQUENCES

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IT'S HUGE FOR ME BECAUSE IF WE'RE USING OUR GRIEVANCE LEVEL ONE, TWO, THREE PROCESS WITHIN THIS WHOLE MOMENT OF DEEP, IF I'M THE PRINCIPAL, THE PARENT COMES TO THE HEARING, IS NOT SATISFIED, GOES TO A LEVEL ONE. THAT LEVEL ONE IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE PRINCIPAL. CORRECT. SO NOW WE'RE CREATING THE CIRCLE OF CONFUSION THAT MAY BE UNNECESSARY. I TRULY BELIEVE IN THE IMPARTIAL PROCESS OF THAT HEARING OFFICER. AND WHAT TRIGGERED IT IS WHEN YOU SAID DUE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS. YOU SAID. SO I'M THINKING THROUGH THE NEXT STEPS, OKAY, I'M LEAVING IT. LEVEL ONE. THAT GOES BACK TO THE PRINCIPAL, THE SAME PRINCIPLE THAT SAID, YOU'RE GOING, HAVE WE ADDRESSED THAT YET? DOCTOR OSBORNE, IN OUR GRIEVANCE PROCESS LEVEL ONES ARE RECEIVED BY TWO DEPARTMENTS IN THE DISTRICT, ONE DEPARTMENT BEING HUMAN RESOURCES AND THE OTHER BEING LEARNING SERVICES. THE DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT OF LEARNING SERVICES REVIEWS ISSUES RELATED TO PARENTS, STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY HUMAN RESOURCES REVIEWS GRIEVANCES RELATED TO STAFF. ONCE THOSE GRIEVANCES ARE RECEIVED BASED ON THE FACTS PRESENTED IN THAT GRIEVANCE FORM, THE HEARING GRIEVANCE RECEIVED, THE PERSON RECEIVING THE GRIEVANCE THEN ASSIGNS THAT GRIEVANCE TO BE HEARD AT THE LOWEST LEVEL POSSIBLE. ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES WHEN WE REVIEW HOW THE GRIEVANCE IS READ AND WHAT THE REMEDIES ARE REQUESTED, IS SELECTING THE BEST FIRST PERSON TO HEAR THAT GRIEVANCE. SO IT IS NOT ALWAYS AUTOMATICALLY THE PRINCIPAL WE DO SEEK TO SOLVE AT THE LOWEST LEVEL, BECAUSE THE CAMPUS WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT WE WOULD MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE BEST PERSON TO HEAR THAT GRIEVANCE AT LEVEL ONE. OKAY. SO THE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING NOW, ARE THEY IN WRITTEN POLICY BECAUSE WE HAVE WRITTEN POLICY ON LEVEL ONE, TWO, THREE AND AS AS A BOARD.

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE WHAT YOU JUST SAID. SO WHERE DOES THAT COME IN? ARE YOU UPDATING IT? ARE YOU BRINGING IT TO US OR WOULD YOU JUST SAID ABOUT THE HR AND THIS WE DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES, PROCEDURES BENEATH THE LOCAL POLICY THAT IDENTIFIES THE SUPERINTENDENT DESIGNEE. BUT DON'T WE HAVE A WRITTEN LEVEL ONE, TWO, THREE ALREADY? YES, MA'AM. THAT'S LISTED IN OUR POLICY. IT'S NOT DIFFERENT. IT'S JUST THE EXECUTION OF THAT LOCAL POLICY. SO HAVE WE TRADED THEN DISTRICT HEARING OFFICERS FOR THE GRIEVANCE POLICY? NO, SIR, WE HAVE NOT. MAYBE I ASKED THAT QUESTION POORLY. IS THE APPEAL RATHER I MEAN SO WE SO WE'VE TAKEN DISTRICT HEARING OFFICERS OUT OF THE LOOP AS A DECISION MAKER, ALTHOUGH THEY DO HAVE INPUT INTO THE PROCESS BUT INSTEAD. SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE OLD PROCESS. IF I DISAGREED AS A PARENT WITH WHAT THE DISTRICT HEARING OFFICER SAID, THIS IS MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT YOU, BUT I'M REALLY, I THINK, SPEAKING. WHAT WAS THE PROCESS TO APPEAL THAT? PREVIOUSLY WE HAD MULTIPLE LEVELS OF APPEALS AVAILABLE IN OUR DISTRICT, STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT FROM THE REFERRAL TO A CONSEQUENCE OF OSS. ES DE. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DAVID, THE ONLY REQUIRED APPEAL WOULD BE AT THE LEVEL OF AN EXPULSION. SO ESSENTIALLY WE HAD DEVELOPED A APPEAL PROCESS FOR MULTIPLE LEVELS THAT WERE NOT A DESIGNATED REQUIREMENT. AND BASED ON RECENT INFORMATION WE'VE RECEIVED AND HOW TO PROCEED WITH OUR SAFETY PROCESSES, THE ONLY REQUIRED APPEAL IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE REMAINING WITH. AND WE'RE

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I NEED A MIC. OKAY. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON SOMETHING. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS. SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY SAYING IS WE'VE WE'VE MADE POLICY CHANGES BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM A REPORT THAT WERE NOT NECESSARILY POLICY CHANGES BY THIS POLICY MAKING INSTITUTION. I'M GOING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING, UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE ALL ARE CONFUSED RIGHT NOW IS THAT CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE THAT WE MAY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO, BUT DID NOT SAY, DO THEY HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE DOCUMENT THAT IS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR CONSIDERATION? AND WE HAVE THE WE HAVE THE OPTION TO MAKE ANY CHANGES FROM WHAT IS PRESENTED TO YOU. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE DISCONNECT IS. THAT'S WHAT I'M THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY THIS. AND THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME THIS GROUP HAS SEEN THIS DOCUMENT SINCE THE STAFF RECEIVED THAT REPORT, IN WHICH THE TRUSTEES RECEIVED AS WELL. THE LIMITED STAFF RECEIVED THAT REPORT. SO MY UNDERSTANDING AND I'M SPEAKING FOR ME, IS THAT WHAT WE WERE PRESENTED? WE GOT THE INFORMATION. THEN THAT INFORMATION WAS TAKEN BY STAFF AND THEN CONVERTED INTO WORKABLE POLICIES. THAT IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED BACK TO US FOR APPROVAL. IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW. YES, SIR. BUT THIS IS THE WORKING PROCESS. THIS IS THE WORKSHOP. BUT NEXT TUESDAY WOULD BE THE WOULD BE HEY, HERE'S THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. VOTE ON THIS. YES, SIR. MR. RAINWATER, I JUST HAVE A REPORT. DOCTOR OSBORNE MENTIONED ALL THE THINGS ARD STUDENTS IEPS LINK. NO LINKS. ARE STILL GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PRINCIPAL LEVEL. A DRP ASSIGNMENT. YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. AND IT'S IDENTIFIED IN OUR FLOW CHART THAT YOU'LL SEE. THANK YOU. IT'S IMPORTANT. OKAY. CAN I. ABSOLUTELY. I'M IN LINE WITH MR. MINTZ A LITTLE BIT. SOMETIMES IT'S HARD FOR PARENTS AND STUDENTS TO FEEL THAT THEY'RE GETTING A FAIR PROCESS. WHEN THE DECISION MAKER ON THE ON TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS IS THE SAME INDIVIDUAL. AND I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT, BUT BASED ON WHAT YOU WERE DESCRIBING TO US, IT CAN POTENTIALLY BE THAT PERSON TWICE. AND SO I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR TO STUDENTS AND PARENTS THAT THEY PERCEIVE THAT WE ARE GIVING THEM THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO GET A FAIR HEARING, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE EXPEDITIOUS FOR US. WE WANT TO BE FAIR, NOT ALWAYS MOST EXPEDITIOUS. WE DO WANT TO BE EXPEDITIOUS TO THE DEGREE THAT WE CAN, BUT WE GOT TO BE MINDFUL THAT PARENTS AND STUDENTS NEED TO FEEL LIKE WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, I GOT A FAIR HEARING AT WHATEVER LEVEL IT IS. SO I WOULD REALLY CAUTION US TO MAKE SURE WE CREATE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WILL GIVE PARENTS AND STUDENTS THE BEST UNDERSTANDING OF IT WAS FAIR. WHETHER I LIKED IT OR NOT, IT WAS FAIR. THANK YOU, DOCTOR OSBORNE. WHAT? I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THE STAFF BRING BACK IS A POLICY AND PROCEDURE THAT TAKES A LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT HEARING OFFICER BEING FROM ANOTHER CAMPUS. SO ANOTHER CAMPUS PRINCIPAL I'VE OPERATED PREVIOUSLY IN A SYSTEM IN WHICH WE HAD PARTNER CAMPUSES, AND IF THERE WAS TO BE A HEARING, IT WASN'T THE SAME INDIVIDUAL. SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS AN OPTION. MR. MINTZ. SO WHAT I STILL HAVEN'T HEARD, EXPLAINED OR PROPOSED IS WHY WE'RE CHANGING IT. WHAT'S THE BENEFIT? I THE SPEED, I GET THE SPEED.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD SACRIFICE SPEED FOR, AS MR. GILCHRIST SAID, RIGHT. BEING FAIR TO KIDS LIKE I'M THE FIRST GUY WHO'S GOING TO STAND UP HERE AND SAY, THESE ARE THE

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BUT STAFF IS LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK TO TWEAK BASED ON THAT, BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF TO THE BOARD. OKAY. AND DOES THAT HELP YOU A LITTLE BIT, MISS I DON'T THINK THAT PROBABLY HELPS YOU. I, I JUST QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S A BIG SECRET. I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO WE I GET IT, WE WANT TO GET KIDS OFF OF THE OFF OF BAD KIDS OFF OF CAMPUS QUICKER. GOT IT. LET'S IF THIS IS THE WAY TO DO THAT AND DO IT FAIRLY, IF WE'RE STILL DOING THAT, THEN THEN JUST ARTICULATE THAT TO ME. BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT YET.

MADAM SECRETARY, MY FINAL REMARK ON IT, I I'M REALLY STRUGGLING AS OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WITH THE FAIRNESS OF IT. AS A FORMER HEARING OFFICER, BEING IN THAT NEUTRAL POSITION PROTECTS THE STUDENT. IT PROTECTS THE DISTRICT. WHEN WE TAKE THAT OUT OF THE EQUATION, I'M VERY CONCERNED. AND SO I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE PERSUASION BECAUSE I CAN'T GET KIDS OUT OF MY HEAD BECAUSE I'VE WALKED THROUGH THESE SHOES AS PRINCIPAL AND HEARING OFFICER, AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT ALL OF THAT ON THE SHOULDERS OF OUR CAMPUS LEADERSHIP WHEN THEY REALLY SHOULD BE WATCHING INSTRUCTION. I'M STRUGGLING. SO Y'ALL GOING TO HAVE TO HELP ME MISS MR. RAINWATER. AND I'LL START WITH YOU BECAUSE I WANT TO I WANT TO HELP STAFF WITH DIRECTION. WHAT YOU'RE HEARING ARE IS IT YOUR DESIRE TO SEE A POLICY THAT REFLECTS MORE OF ANOTHER LEVEL OF CHECK BEYOND THE PRINCIPAL? NO, NO. OKAY, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, WHAT IS WHAT IS YOUR PULSE? I AM UNDECIDED. WELL, SO HERE'S WHAT I'M I'M TRYING TO DO. I DON'T WANT THEM TO BRING BACK SOMETHING. IF THAT'S NOT A CONSENSUS FOR THE FROM TRUSTEES TO SEE THAT. WELL, WE CAN'T DO THAT. WELL ABSOLUTELY I KNOW, BUT WE CAN'T GIVE A CONSENSUS OF DIRECTION OF HOW THEY NEED TO WORK TO BRING A POLICY BACK TO US THAT WE CAN TRY TO GET ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. MADAM CAPITO, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS? DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM AS WRITTEN, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ANOTHER LEVEL OF I GUESS I DON'T KNOW MR. MINTS WORDED, BUT A ANOTHER LEVEL TO CHECK BEYOND THE PRINCIPAL, BECAUSE IN ESSENCE, I DON'T WANT TO USE THE TERM KANGAROO COURT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT REALLY IS, MR. MINCE, BUT HE REFERENCED A KANGAROO COURT AND NO PUN INTENDED. YEAH. MADAM CAPITO, JUST SO WE CAN. SO I WANT TRUSTEES TO UNDERSTAND IT'S ONLY FAIR TO STAFF BECAUSE THEY'RE HEARING SOME THINGS IN THERE. MR. WELLS IS TRYING TO GO GET A POLICY TO US THAT THAT THERE'S A CONSENSUS ON. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S FAIR. I LIKE THE IDEA THAT DOCTOR OSBORNE GAVE OF MAYBE A PARTNER CAMPUS OR HAVING SOMETHING THAT PROTECTS THE PRINCIPAL AND THE CAMPUS. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THESE, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY HARD JOB TO DO WITH THE CODE OF CONDUCT, AND IT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE TO TRY TO GET TO DO THOSE THINGS. AND SO THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HELP GIVE SOME GUIDANCE HERE. SO PLEASE KNOW IT'S ALL WITH GOOD INTENT. ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALLY HELPED ME OUT THERE, BUT BECAUSE I JUST WANT IT TO BE FAIR, YOU KNOW? WELL, WELL, IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT TO BE FAIR, DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE ALIGNING WITH MR. MINTZ'S STATEMENT, WHICH YOU WANT TO SEE ANOTHER LEVEL OF CHECK. YOU WANT TO HEAR THE PROPOSAL. DOCTOR OSBORNE IS GOING TO BRING US WITH A PARTNER CAMPUS, WHICH IS ANOTHER LEVEL OF CHECK OR A NEUTRAL PERSON. OKAY. WELL, I'M GOING TO STAND WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS PRESENTED BECAUSE I WANT I WANT THEM TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL. BUT I WOULD HOPE OUR PRINCIPALS ARE BEING FAIR. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE STATEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ARTICULATED BY MY FELLOW TRUSTEES. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. LET ME. OH, I'M SORRY, I SAW HER HAND. SORRY. NO DRAMA, NO DRAMA. GO AHEAD, MR. RAINWATER. OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, BASED ON MY 46 YEARS OF SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION EXPERIENCE BEING A HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, A ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, A BUS DRIVER DIDN'T GET TO BE A CUSTODIAN.

BUT I WAS ON THE WAY UP AND I LEFT SOMETHING OUT. I DON'T, AND I'M SURE THE BOARD FEELS THIS WAY AS WELL, BUT I DON'T SPEAK FOR I DON'T EVER WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE FROM THIS. DIAS THAT WE DON'T TRUST OUR ADMINISTRATORS. I THINK YOU'RE GETTING DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO THAT. MY EXPERIENCE, BASED ON THE ALL THE THINGS I JUST RECITED, WAS THAT WHEN A KID COMES TO A HEARING,

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SORRY WITH YOU SAYING THAT AND KNOWING THAT PRINCIPALS WANT SOME OF THAT CONTROL. I LIKE THAT OPTION VERY MUCH BECAUSE IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT, WE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT. BUT THEN GIVING

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WELCOME, MISS WILKERSON.

GOOD MORNING. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, PRESIDENT BRETT WILLIAMS, DOCTOR OSBORNE, I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE ANNUAL REVIEW FOR THE SCHOOL HEALTH ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR THE 20 2425 SCHOOL YEAR AND TO DISCUSS MEMBERSHIP. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OH THIS IS OH, I DO IT NOW OKAY. SO THERE ARE SOME RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE SHACK. AND WE HAVE THEM LISTED HERE IN THE SLIDE. THE MAIN ONE IS TO RECOMMEND CURRICULUM FOR HUMAN SEXUALITY OPIOID ADDICTION AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE. AND THEN CHILD ABUSE FAMILY VIOLENCE DATING VIOLENCE. AND SO IN 2023 WE PRESENTED THE LIVING WELL AWARE MY CHOICES, MY LIFE. OUR PARENTS WERE ABLE TO HEAR PRESENTATIONS FROM THE DEVELOPERS OF THIS CURRICULUM. DOCTOR PATRICIA SHERLOCK. WHAT THEY LIKED ABOUT IT. THEY LIKED THAT THE PARENT COMPONENT, THE PARENT ENGAGEMENT WITH THE VIDEOS AND THE LESSONS. AND SO THE BOARD APPROVED AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO USE IT BECAUSE IT STILL WORKS FOR US. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR CURRICULUMS THAT'S OUT THERE. WE HAVE SEVERAL STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR HUMAN SEXUALITY. AND LAST YEAR, OUR TEAM WAS ABLE TO MEET ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS WITH THE LETTERS INFORMING PARENTS OF WHAT'S COMING AND PRESENTING THE CURRICULUM IN MAY. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE ARE THE DATES THAT THESE REQUIREMENTS WERE MADE AND THE IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL SANDRA MARCUSON LEADS THAT. AND SO SHE DID A GREAT JOB. WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A COORDINATED SCHOOL PROGRAM. AND WE ADOPTED CATCH WHICH IS COORDINATED APPROACH TO CHILD HEALTH. THIS IS APPROVED BY THE T AND IT IS DESIGNED TO PREVENT OBESITY. WE USE IT THROUGH OUR PHYSICAL EDUCATION CLASSES. THERE ARE LESSONS IN THIS PROGRAM THAT DISCUSS VAPING AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND ALL OF THOSE ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE HEALTH OF STUDENTS. WE ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING THE KISD WELLNESS PLAN, AND WE DO THIS THROUGH OUR SCHOOL, NUTRITION AND PE DEPARTMENTS. AND WE INVITE PARENTS TO SIT ON A SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVIEW THOSE.

WE DESIGNED A KISD ASSESSMENT TOOL THAT WE GIVE TO CAMPUSES WHERE THEY'RE WHERE WE ASK THAT THEY MEET WITH THEIR SBDC TO DISCUSS THE ASSESSMENT AND TO GIVE US INFORMATION ON THE NEEDS

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IMPLEMENTING THE T TEST SYSTEM. QUESTIONS FOR MR. BAKER. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. WELL, I'M TRUSTEES, I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS. GOING BACK TO ITEM A, B AND C, THESE ARE BOTH BEING ALL OF THOSE WERE BEING PROPOSED TO GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING B ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THAT THAT WILL BE AN INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION ITEM, BUT IS THERE A CONSENSUS THAT A WHICH IS THE SHACK, GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND SEE THE TEXAS TEACHER EVALUATION SUPPORT SYSTEM, GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY ISSUES WITH THAT? OKAY DOCTOR OSBORNE WE'RE TRACKING. SO B WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM. THANK YOU. SO NOW WE'LL GO TO D DISCUSSION OF FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET PLANNING AND PROPERTY VALUE COMPARISON.

MISS BADEN. WELCOME. THANK YOU AND GOOD MORNING. SINCE WE HAVE LAST MET, WE HAVE GOTTEN OUR CERTIFIED VALUES FROM THE TAX APPRAISAL DISTRICT. THOSE ARE REQUIRED EACH YEAR ANNUALLY BY THE END OF JULY. AND SO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION. AND I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH KIND OF THE CHANGES IN THAT INFORMATION, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THAT WILL IMPACT KISD. FIRST PAGE IS JUST OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET ASSUMPTIONS. THESE ARE SAME ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE HAVE SEEN LAST TIME, OTHER THAN THE VERY FIRST ONE UNDER REVENUES. TALKS ABOUT OUR EXPECTED MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE, AND WE WILL GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION. SO THIS IS OUR OUR COMPARISON OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS OF THE CERTIFIED VALUE. SO THESE ARE THE VALUES FROM JULY. EACH OF THOSE YEARS, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE 2022 YEAR HAD A $40,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. THE 23 AND 24 HAD $100,000 HOMESTEAD

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I DO WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE FAR RIGHT TODAY, OUR INTENT AND OUR HOPE WAS TO HAVE A NEAR-FINAL PROPOSED BUDGET. WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE PROVIDER. I THINK THE THEY HAVE NOT OR WERE NOT INTENDED TO HAVE RAISES THAT ARE LIKE TEACHERS HAVE A FLAT AMOUNT. OTHER INDIVIDUALS GOT A PERCENT. THE FLAT RATE OF COURSE WAS MANDATED BY THE STATE. AND SO THEY'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY WORKING THROUGH THAT PIECE. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE GOT THE $13 MINIMUM THAT WE HAVE PUT IN THERE AS WELL. AND SO THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THAT. WE ARE PUSHING VERY, VERY HARD. I GUARANTEE YOU WE HAVE EXPRESSED OUR DEADLINES. AND SO WE'LL BRING SOMETHING NEXT WEEK. NOT SURE HOW FINAL THAT WILL BE, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE SUMMARIZED INFORMATION TO YOU NEXT WEEK TO LOOK AT AND REVIEW AND ASK QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FROM TRUSTEES. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, NO. SO WE'RE WE'RE GOOD. IS YOUR HAND GOING UP NOW? IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PROPOSED TAX RATE. SO GO AHEAD. BUT THIS IS BUDGET PLANNING AND PROPERTY VALUE COMPARISONS. I THINK YOU'RE FREE IF IT'S RELATED TO DOLLARS. I JUST WANTED TO ASK WHEN WILL WE HAVE AN INS. WHAT'S OUR INS TAX RATE. BECAUSE WHAT THE TAXPAYERS WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT WHAT'S THEIR OVERALL KISD TAX RATE. DO NOT HAVE THAT FINAL VALUE YET. WE HAVE PART OF OUR REQUIREMENTS WITH BUDGET IS TO POST AN AD,

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CORRECT. SO WHAT WOULD CAUSE IT TO GO UP THIS YEAR? I'M GOING TO SAY IT'S PRETTY SIMPLISTIC. THE WAY THE INS RATE WORKS. WE HAVE OUR DEBT PAYMENT SCHEDULE THAT HAS BEEN DETERMINED AT THE POINT WE ISSUED BONDS. WE'VE GOT 20 YEARS WORTH OF PAYMENTS SCHEDULED, SO WE KNOW WHAT THE PAYMENT AMOUNT IS GOING TO BE. SO BASICALLY THEN YOU JUST BACK INTO THAT BASED OFF OF OUR VALUE, WHAT RATE DO WE NEED TO ASSESS TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE OUR PAYMENT? I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A PROJECTION OF WHAT I EXPECT THAT TO BE. BUT AGAIN WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT NEXT WEEK. CERTAINLY. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I JUST THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE AS A BOARD DON'T CONTROL THAT RATE. AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK, FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND. WELL, AND THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING IS AT THE POINT THE BONDS WERE APPROVED BY THE PUBLIC, BY THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING, IS THAT YOU GIVE THE SCHOOL BOARD THE AUTHORITY TO ADOPT WHATEVER TAX RATE IS NECESSARY TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE. SO MISS VADEN AND I JUST SEE ON THE CALENDAR IT SHOWS ON THE 12TH. AND SO I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE SURPRISED. SO IT SAYS VOTE TO APPROVE PROPOSED BUDGETS AND TAX RATES FOR THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR. SO NEXT YEAR THERE'S NEXT YEAR. NEXT WEEK THERE'S GOING TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM. YAY OR NAY ON THE BUDGET. I'M GOING TO SAY YES AGAIN. IT WILL BE DETERMINED BY HOW THIS WEEK GOES. THE I'M GOING TO SAY THREE THINGS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED FOR BUDGET ADOPTION. ONE IS THE NEWSPAPER AD JUST MENTIONED.

TWO, NOT MORE THAN TEN DAYS LATER TO ACTUALLY ADOPT THE BUDGET. SO THAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE 26TH AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SAME DAY YOU ADOPT. SO THAT'S THE THREE REQUIRED PIECES LEGALLY REQUIRED. THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT THE BOARD ADOPT WHAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED. THAT HAS BEEN THE HABIT OF THIS BOARD. AND SO EXPECT TO DO THAT.

BUT IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE AT THAT POINT. THE AGAIN THE NEWSPAPER AD HAS TO BE PUBLISHED WITHIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT MOSTLY THIS TAX INFORMATION, AVERAGE HOME VALUES, THOSE KINDS OF PIECES OF INFORMATION. BUT THE BOARD DOES NOT. WE CAN MAKE YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES FROM WHAT'S PUBLISHED IN THAT AD. WHAT'S ANTICIPATED AT ACTUALLY AT THE MEETING TO ADOPT OBVIOUSLY FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES WOULD NOT WANT TO DO THAT. BUT IF THE SITUATION WERE TO GET TO THAT POINT, CHANGES CAN BE MADE ACTUALLY AT THE MEETING TO ADOPT. OKAY. SO THAT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT CHANGE IN PRACTICE. AND THAT'S FINE BECAUSE I THINK NORMALLY WE KIND OF LOCK IN AND WE KNOW THAT IT WILL NOT GO HIGHER, THAT NORMALLY WE'RE TELLING EVERYBODY IT WILL ONLY GO DOWN. AM I IS THAT ACCURATE. BUT THAT WILL BE DIFFERENT THIS YEAR. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT AT ONE TIME AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY LET'S GO. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT ONE TIME AGAIN. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUBLISH AN AD. THEN WE'LL HAVE A MEETING ON THE 19TH. IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS FURTHER AND MAKE CHANGES AT THAT TIME, WE CAN. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT ANYONE WANTS TO SEE IN THIS BUDGET THAT THEY'RE NOT CONFIDENT IT IS IN THEIR, THEY WOULD NEED TO BE TELLING YOU THAT RIGHT NOW. YES, IT WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL. PUT IT THAT WAY. MADAM SECRETARY. SO YOU MENTIONED THE 19TH. COULD WE TENTATIVELY PUT IT ON THE SCHEDULE IN CASE WE NEED IT OR YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE A POSSIBILITY FOR US TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION? OH, SURE. ABSOLUTELY. I'M COMFORTABLE PUTTING THAT ON THE 19TH IF WE NEED TO DISCUSS FURTHER. WHAT WAS THAT, ASK AGAIN. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT. YOU SAID YOU MENTIONED THAT ON THE 19TH WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO. MY ORIGINAL UNDERSTANDING WAS THE MEETING. THERE WASN'T ONE ON THE 12TH. THERE WAS A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THE 19TH.

BUT YEAH, TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NEWSPAPER AD, WE HAD ADDED THE MEETING ON THE 12TH. YEAH. I'M SURE, YEAH, I'M SURE THE 19TH IS ON HERE. IS THAT RIGHT, DOCTOR OSBORN AS A MEETING DATE. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. AND WE'LL CERTAINLY HAVE A BUDGET ITEM IF

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BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS FOR YOU HAVE. THAT REASONABLE. WE CAN DO SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE CAN WE TRY TO GET THAT ONE TO THE FULL BOARD. BUT CAN WE SEND THAT THAT OUT IN AN EMAIL, THAT MAYBE AN EMAIL UPDATE THAT GOES TO EVERYBODY. SO IF YOU HAVE IT IN TWO DAYS.

SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A WAIT TILL FRIDAY. AND THEN IF MR. RAINWATER HAS SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT, HE CAN GET THAT TO YOU ASAP. AND THEN YOU COULD COME FORWARD NEXT TUESDAY. WE CAN DO THAT. A QUESTION WAS ASKED TO ME AND HE KIND OF SPARKED. IT WAS HOW DO I WORK THIS THE COST PER STUDENT. SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING IN OUR BUDGET, THE COST PER STUDENT THAT AT SHOEMAKER HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S LOWER THAN IT IS AT THE OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF BUDGET RELATED.

AND WHAT WOULD DRIVE THAT? IF THAT'S NOT BUDGET, TELL ME I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BUT I THINK I THINK I THINK IT'S BUDGET. IT'S NOT MUCH TO ME THAT WOULDN'T BE BUDGET. CAMPUSES ARE GOING TO GET AN INITIAL ALLOCATION TRULY BASED ON NUMBER OF STUDENTS. THEN DEPENDING ON STUDENTS MEETING A CERTAIN CRITERIA, YOU KNOW, DEMOGRAPHICALLY THEY MAY GET ADDITIONAL FUNDS DEPENDING ON WHAT PROGRAMS THEY OFFER AT THAT CAMPUS, THEY MAY GET ADDITIONAL FUNDS. SO I WOULD ACTUALLY BE SURPRISED IF ANY EXPENDITURE PER STUDENT WAS THE SAME AT A GIVEN CAMPUS, BUT WAS HOW WAS PRESENTED TO ME IS THE MOST STUDENTS BUT THE LEAST AMOUNT OF FUNDING PER STUDENT? AGAIN, IT WOULD JUST DEPEND ON THE MAKEUP OF THE INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS, EITHER DEMOGRAPHICALLY OR BY PROGRAM. OKAY, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, ANYTHING BUDGET RELATED YOU WANT TO ADD? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. DOCTOR OSBORNE, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IF THAT QUESTION ABOUT COST PER STUDENT WAS RELATED TO THE OPTIMIZATION PROFILES, BECAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF COST PER STUDENT. WE NEED TO DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS UNDERSTOOD. BECAUSE I WAS TOLD IT WAS THE COMMENT WAS MADE TO ME IN A PUBLIC SETTING AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S INTERESTING. AND I WAS LIKE, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION, OKAY, BUT I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION WITH THAT REGARD.

THEN I WOULD OFFER THAT INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE LOOKING AT THE OPTIMIZATION PROFILE, IT'S ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH A GLOSSARY. AND IF YOU GO TO THE GLOSSARY IN THE AREA RELATED TO RESOURCES FOR STUDENT READINESS, IT DEFINES OPERATING COST PER STUDENT, WHICH LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN OUR APPROACH TO BUDGET AND HOW EACH STUDENT IS INDIVIDUALLY FUNDED FOR THE DISTRICT. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. MR. GILCHRIST. THANK YOU. I'D REALLY BE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHERE THAT'S LOCATED. NOT NOT JUST THE OPTIMIZATION PLAN, BUT THE OTHER COST PER STUDENT ANALYSIS THAT WE HAVE. IF THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE, WHERE CAN I FIND IT AND IS IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC? FOR OPERATING COST PER STUDENT THAT IS LOCATED ON OUR DISTRICT OPTIMIZATION WEBSITE? THE PROFILES ARE THERE FOR EVERY CAMPUS GROUP BY ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND HIGH SCHOOL. AND THERE IS ALSO A LINK TO THE GLOSSARY THAT GIVES SPECIFIC DEFINITION FOR ALL OF THAT DATA THAT CAN BE FOUND ON THE PROFILE. IT SPECIFICALLY FOR OPERATING COST PER STUDENT IS FOUND ON PAGE THREE OF THE GLOSSARY, AND IT GIVES A DEFINITION FOR EACH THING THAT'S REFERENCED ON THE OPTIMIZATION PROFILE. ANY OTHER. MADAM CAPITO CALENDAR JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS. SO THE COST PER STUDENT IT CHANGES BECAUSE THERE COULD BE MORE SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS AT ONE CAMPUS AND THEY GET HIGHER FUNDING BASED ON THEIR NEEDS, OR ESL, OR GIFTED OR COLLEGE AND CAREER. CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLARITY BECAUSE I THINK MAYBE THAT WASN'T AS CLEAR. THANK YOU. OKAY, KEVIN, I THINK YOU'RE IN THE CLEAR. I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO E WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF FUTURE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A RESOLUTION

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SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE RESEARCHED SCOPE AND COSTS OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS, AND THE BOARD'S ADVISED THAT IT'S PREFERRED TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION FOR DAP PROGRAMS OR SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WERE CONSIDERING. SO EACH OF THE THREE DECOMMISSIONED PROPERTIES COST THE DISTRICT 90 TO $100,000 A YEAR, WHICH INCLUDES PROPERTY, INSURANCE, UTILITIES, GROUNDS AND GENERAL MAINTENANCE COSTS. SO SELLING ALL THREE WILL RESULT IN AN ANNUAL SAVINGS OF ABOUT $300,000. THIS ITEM INCLUDES A RESOLUTION TO DECLARE SUGARLOAF AS EXCESS, SO THAT WE CAN THEN TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS TO ADVERTISE THE PROPERTY AND HOLD A PUBLIC BID. THE NEXT STEPS ARE TO HIRE A REAL ESTATE BROKER, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE FOLLOWING ITEM, AND THEN WE'LL NOTIFY LOCAL CHARTER SCHOOLS WITHIN OUR DISTRICT OF THE PROPERTY BEING AVAILABLE FOR BID. WE'LL THEN PUT A PUBLIC NOTIFICATION IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ADVERTISE FOR A COUPLE MONTHS THAT THESE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE UP FOR BID, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN BIDS. I'M HOPING BEFORE CHRISTMAS BREAK, MAYBE OCTOBER NOVEMBER TIME FRAME FOR THE BOARD TO REVIEW AND CONSIDER APPROVING. AND THIS IS JUST AN INFORMATION ITEM. YES. QUESTIONS FOR TRUSTEES, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, MR. RICH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU IF YOU COULD GIVE ME AN UPDATE COPY OF THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER'S POLICY ON THE SALE OF PUBLIC PROPERTY. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, MR. RICH, I THINK YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO F, WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE SERVICES. RANK! ORDER, MR. RICH. THANK YOU SIR.

SO ON JUNE 15TH OF THIS YEAR, THE DISTRICT ISSUED A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR REAL ESTATE BROKER SERVICES. PROPOSALS WERE RECEIVED ON JULY 24TH FROM TWO QUALIFIED BROKERS.

A TEAM OF DISTRICT STAFF REVIEWED THE PROPOSALS BASED ON THE CRITERIA SHOWN ON THE ATTACHED RANK ORDER. STAFF RECOMMENDS SELECTING BOTH CLOUD REAL ESTATE AND CBRE INCORPORATED TO SERVE AS REAL ESTATE BROKERS FOR THE DISTRICT'S DECOMMISSIONED FACILITIES, AND IF APPROVED, WE'LL NEGOTIATE FEES AND ASSIGN PROPERTIES TO THE BROKERS TO BEGIN THE ADVERTISEMENT AND BID PROCESS. AND THIS ITEM IS ONE THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR CONSENT. QUESTIONS FOR MR. RICH. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, MR. RICH, I LOOKED THROUGH HERE AND ONE OF THE ISSUES I ALWAYS HAVE WHEN WE GO OUT FOR RFPS IS WHO GETS THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE WHO ARE WE SENDING THE INFORMATION TO REQUEST PARTICIPATION OR SO THAT THEY EVEN KNOW WE'RE LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING. AND THERE'S A LIST IN HERE. AND I THOUGHT THE LIST WAS RATHER INTERESTING BECAUSE ALIEF ISD IS ON HERE. WHY WOULD WE BE SENDING I ONLY FOUND THREE BROKERS ON HERE ON THIS WHOLE LIST. I ONLY FOUND THREE BROKERS NAMES. AND THERE'S FOUR PAGES, THREE AND A HALF PAGES FOR THREE PAGES. REALLY? AND WE HAVE A HYPNOTIST ON HERE. WE HAVE VERTEX MARKETING, WE HAVE WILLOWBEND INDUSTRIES, WE HAVE COACH WILSON, WE HAVE FLORAL PARK CONSULTING. WHAT DO THEY ALL HAVE TO DO WITH SELLING REAL ESTATE? I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP THROUGH OUR PURCHASING FOR PRIOR BIDS. AND SO THEY NOTIFY EVERYBODY THAT'S A VENDOR ALREADY IN OUR SYSTEM. WE ALSO DO A PUBLIC NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPERS, AND WE HAVE RECEIVED CALLS PROBABLY FROM THE THREE THAT ARE ON THIS LIST PREVIOUSLY ASKING IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN SERVICES. AND SO WHEN PEOPLE CONTACTED US, WE PUT THEM ON A LIST SO THAT WE MADE SURE TO GIVE THEM NOTIFICATION WHEN IT WENT OUT. SO TO YOUR POINT, YES, MANY OF THESE VENDORS ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT INTERESTED. I BELIEVE THEY WERE JUST PREVIOUSLY SIGNED UP WITHIN THE SYSTEM, SO THEY RECEIVED IT. IT ALMOST SEEMS RIDICULOUS THAT WE WOULD. BUT ANYWAY, WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY ALONE, FROM LAMPASAS TO TEMPLE TO WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL REALTORS, OUR

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YES, MA'AM. FEEDBACK FROM TRUSTEES. MADAM CAPITA, YOU HAD MENTIONED CHARTER SCHOOLS. SO ARE WE SUPPOSED TO ARE WE REQUIRED TO? I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC I WANT CLARIFICATION FOR THE PUBLIC BECAUSE WHAT THE MESSAGE IS, IS, OH, GO GIVE IT TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR KIDS. AND SO CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT FOR US? YES, MA'AM. IT'S TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. YOU'RE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO FIRST NOTIFY CHARTER SCHOOLS IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING PUTTING A PROPERTY OUT FOR BID, SO WE CAN CONSIDER THEIR OFFERS WITH THE PUBLIC BIDS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIRST CONSIDER THEIR OFFERS, BUT YES, YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY THEM. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED THAT TO BE SAID. YES, MA'AM. TRUSTEES, THE ASK FOR MR. RICHARDS FOR THIS TO GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE WANT TO ASK MR. RICH TO TAKE THIS BACK OUT AND CAST A BROADER NET THAN THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN CAST? I DO. MR. MINTZ. I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AS WELL. ACTUALLY. IS THERE MR. RICH? IS THERE SOME IS THERE A TIME CRUNCH ON THIS? DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DECIDED BY NEXT WEEK, OR. THE ONLY URGENCY IS THE DOLLARS THAT WE SPEND ON THE BUILDING, SIR. SO I MEAN, ANOTHER COUPLE MONTHS IS JUST EXPENSES FOR UTILITIES AND ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY URGENCY. I'D LIKE TO SEE US CAST A WIDER NET. DOES ANYONE UP HERE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US DELAYING THIS? SO MR. RICH AND HIS TEAM CAN CAST A LARGER NET, MR. GILCHRIST. SO WE WE'RE CASTING A NET TO FIND OUT WHO'S GOING TO SELL IT FOR US. CORRECT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. CORRECT? CORRECT. NOT WHO MIGHT POTENTIALLY PURCHASE. NO. CORRECT. JUST WHO COULD BE THE POTENTIAL REALTOR, THE BROKER FOR THIS? CORRECT. I'M NOT INTERESTED. ANY FEEDBACK FROM YOU, MR. RAINWATER? I'M NOT INTERESTED IN CASTING A NET. MADAM CAPITO. I'M NOT REALLY INTERESTED. THERE'S A FAIR PROCESS THAT THEY CAN SIGN UP TO BE A BID, AND THEY CAN BE NOTIFIED. THEN I THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL NEED TO DO THAT PROCESS. ANY FEEDBACK FROM YOU, MADAM SECRETARY? I'M GOOD WITH THE LIST THAT HE'S PRESENTED. KEEP MOVING, MR. RICH. THANK YOU. THIS IS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM AS WELL AS AND I APOLOGIZE, ITEM E BEFORE THIS ALSO WOULD BE PLACED ON NO. MR. RICH GIVE ME CLARIFICATION. ITEM E IT JUST SAYS ON THE AGENDA DID YOU WANT ITEM E ON THE CONSENT OR JUST THE REGULAR AGENDA. SO I BELIEVE ITEM A IS NOT KIND OF A IT'S NOT A TYPICAL CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO BRING THAT ONE BACK PUBLICLY AT THE MEETING. YES, SIR. OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I READ THAT RIGHT, MR. MINTZ. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK AT THIS AND I DON'T MAKE A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLEHILL HERE, BUT IF WE HAVE NO COMPETITION, THEN WE'RE NOT GETTING THE BEST RATES. AND THIS IS THIS ISN'T THIS ISN'T BUDGET DUST. I MEAN, THESE ARE MULTI, PROBABLY MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR PROPERTIES.

WE'RE TALKING PERCENTAGES OF IT IS IT'S REAL MONEY. SO I IF LOOK IF THIS IF THAT'S THE DECISION IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY WE HAVE A HYPNOTIST AND ANOTHER ANOTHER ISD AND SOME OTHER UNRELATED PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING OTHER WHO ARE NOT REAL ESTATE AGENTS. AND THERE'S A LOT OF REAL ESTATE AGENTS IN THIS, IN THIS COMMUNITY. I BET YOU WE COULD GET A BETTER DEAL. SO I IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE BEST DEAL THAT WE CAN, THEN I WOULD NOT AGREE TO PUT IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. MR. RICH, CAN YOU KIND OF SPEAK TO AND TELL ME IF THAT'S NOT YOUR AREA, THE FINANCIAL PROS AND CONS, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE

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SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLACE THIS ONE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH MEANS IT WILL BE AN ITEM WHERE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. COULD YOU DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH TO JUST DO DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDED ALL TRUSTEES WITH ALL INFORMATION POSSIBLE THAT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL MEETING, SO ANYTHING CAN CHANGE UNTIL IT'S VOTED ON. SO LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE BRINGING ALL THE INFORMATION. YES, SIR, TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

BECAUSE THE FOLKS YOU HAVE NOW, YOU POTENTIALLY COULD NOT SELECT THEM AND THEN GO BACK OUT AS WELL. CORRECT. YOU'RE NOT BOUND BY ONCE YOU START NEGOTIATING. ONCE WE SAY IT'S THESE 2 OR 3, I CAN'T REMEMBER. I KNOW CLOUDS ONE OF THEM THAT DOESN'T LOCK US INTO THEM IF WE DON'T LIKE THE PRICING. OR AM I WRONG IN THAT WE WOULD TERMINATE NEGOTIATIONS? YES, SIR. OKAY, OKAY. THAT'S FINE. NO CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW GO TO G WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF LETTER OF NO OBJECTION FOR DONGJIN SEMI KIM TEXAS INC FOREIGN TRADE ZONE DESIGNATION SAYS MR. RICH BUT THAT IS NOT MR. RICH. MR. HECKENBERG WELCOME, WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE BOARD, SCOTT ARENBERG. I'VE ALSO GOT TYLER WITH ME FROM THE KILLEEN ECONOMIC DAILY CONFERENCE. HE'S GOING TO DO MOST OF THE BRIEFING. I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THE DISTRICT SIDE. COULD YOU JUST TELL US HIS NAME ONE MORE TIME AND WHO HE'S WITH? I'LL MAKE SURE. TYLER. ROBERT, I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. WELCOME. THANK YOU. SO BEFORE YOU TODAY, THE EDC IS COMING BEFORE, ALONG WITH DONG JIN KIM SEEKING FROM KISD A LETTER OF NO OBJECTION WHICH WOULD ALLOW THEM TO CREATE A FOREIGN TRADE ZONE AT THEIR SITE WITHIN THE KILLEEN BUSINESS PARK. THE FOREIGN TRADE ZONE ITSELF EFFECTIVELY PROVIDES AN INVENTORY TAX EXEMPTION, AS WELL AS A DEFERRAL ON THE IMPORTS OF DUTIES FROM ITEMS BROUGHT INTO THE US UNTIL THEY ENTER THE US MARKET. WE'VE DONE CALCULATIONS BASED ON THE TOTAL COST OF INVENTORY THAT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE INSIDE THE FACILITIES, MEANING THE TANKING FACILITIES AT DONG JIN, KIM AND AT MAX CAPACITY. THE TOTAL INVENTORY FOR THOSE ITEMS IS A LITTLE OVER $5.2 MILLION, AND BASED ON THE 2024 TAX NUMBERS, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU TODAY IS A POTENTIAL ESTIMATED IMPACT TO KISD OF $46,363.28, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT UNLIKE THE CITY AND COUNTY, THE KILLEEN ISD WOULD BE REIMBURSED FOR THIS AMOUNT FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS. TO DATE, WE'VE RECEIVED OUR LETTERS OF NO OBJECTION FROM THE CITY OF KILLEEN AS WELL AS BELL COUNTY. AND SO AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS, THIS WILL GO ONCE WE IF WE DO RECEIVE THE THREE LETTERS OF NO OBJECTION, WE WILL PUT TOGETHER AN APPLICATION PACKAGE THAT WILL GO BEFORE THE FTC BOARD, WHICH WILL THEN HAVE A FINAL SAY OFF, WHICH WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE. ANY QUESTIONS FROM TRUSTEES? MR. RAINWATER, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. I'M NOT CROSS-EXAMINING YOU. SO THE 46,000 363 IS TAX MONIES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TAX THAT CORPORATION. AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. AND THE STATE'S GOING TO REIMBURSE US THOSE MONIES. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. HECKENBERG. I THINK IT'S WELL, I SEE YOU WITH THE CLICKER. I'M THINKING YOU WANT TO IF WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO IT. SO. OKAY. HOLD ON ONE HOLD ON ONE SECOND. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, IS THAT YOUR HAND? I APOLOGIZE. SO WHEN YOU SAY THE STATE'S GOING TO REIMBURSE US, CLARIFY. SO WHEN

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AND IF WE ARE AUDITED BY THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE AND WE FALL OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEN WE ARE SUBJECT TO HAVING REDUCTION IN OUR FUNDS THAT WE GET FROM THE STATE. AND SO THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE THAT CONTROLS OR TELLS ME THAT WE HAVE THAT PROTECTION. SO WE CAN SAY ALL DAY LONG THAT, YES, THE STATE'S GOING TO MAKE US WHOLE BY TAKING THIS OFF THE TAX ROLLS. THE STATE'S GOING TO MAKE US WHOLE, BECAUSE IF WE'RE TAXING, IF WE'RE GETTING $0.75 FROM THE STATE AND $0.25 FROM OUR OUR TAXING ENTITY HERE IN BELL COUNTY, THAT THE STATE'S GOING TO MAKE US WHOLE TO THAT 100. BUT IF THE STATE DETERMINES THAT WE'RE NOT TAXING OUR 95% TAX VALUE OR TAX REQUIREMENT, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM US HERE. AND SO DO WE HAVE SOMETHING FROM THE STATE THAT'S GOING TO GUARANTEE US THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE PROTECTIONS? THAT'S MY CONCERN.

RIGHT. AND THEN WHEN WE GO TO THE INS RATE THAT HAS, THAT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AS WELL.

AND $10,000 MAY NOT SEEM LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT IS A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE I ASK, WHAT VALUE DOES THIS ORGANIZATION BRING TO US IN OUR COMMUNITY, TO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT? RIGHT. SO SPECIFICALLY IN RELATION TO TEXAS TAX CODE, WHAT WE'RE KIND OF SHOWING YOU RIGHT HERE IS 11.251 11.253. THOSE EFFECTIVELY REGULATE THE FREE PORT AND GOODS AND TRANSIT EXEMPTIONS CURRENTLY FOR PROPERTY TAX. AND EFFECTIVELY, THE STATE OF TEXAS RECOGNIZES THOSE SAME STATUTES FOR FOREIGN TRADE ZONES. SO THROUGH THAT EFFORT AND WHAT WE'RE WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES IS THAT NO CALCULATION, THEY ADJUST FOR THAT. BEFORE THAT GETS BACK INTO THE ADJUSTMENTS FOR LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, THE 95 TO 100% RATIO, THE SCHOOL IS MADE WHOLE BEFORE IT HITS AND LOOKS AT THAT VALUATION. AND SO BEFORE WE WOULD EVER, I THINK, GET TO THAT POINT, IT WOULDN'T BE A CAUSE FOR CONCERN. OBVIOUSLY, THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS USED SIMILAR VEHICLES IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND SO THEY HAVE NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACTED, ESPECIALLY TO THE EXTENT THAT THIS FOREIGN TRADE ZONE WOULD BE IMPACTING THE INVENTORY VALUES.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, JUST BASED ON THE ACTUAL PROPERTY VALUATIONS CURRENTLY FOR THE

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GOOD MORNING AGAIN. I'M JUST WAITING ON MR. YARBOROUGH. COME UP HERE. I'LL SIT UP HERE WITH ME. FOR THE NEXT. WELCOME. YES, SIR. SO THIS IS PART OF THE STANDARD REVIEW OF THE LOCAL POLICY. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO LEAVE IT AS IS AND NOT MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE CURRENT POLICY. IT'S UP FOR ANNUAL RENEWAL. WE ARE PREPARED TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL CHANGES. IF THAT'S THE DECISION, YOU KNOW, AFTER DISCUSSION AMONGST THE BOARD, IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT IT OR PROPOSED CHANGES WE'RE PREPARED TO DISCUSS. OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION IS TO MAINTAIN THE POLICY AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN. OKAY. SO I THINK KAREN WANTS YOU TO MOVE THAT MICROPHONE OVER. I THINK I WANT MR. HECKENBERG. I THINK YOU WANT I WANT YOU TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OR I MAY NOT TO PUT DOCTOR OSBORNE ON THE SPOT, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR TRUSTEES TO GET AN OVERVIEW OF THERE'S AN ANNUAL REVIEW OF THIS, BUT MADAM VICE PRESIDENT HAS SHE WANTS TO LOOK AT THIS POLICY IN GREATER DEPTH. AND I KNOW SHE CAN PROVIDE THAT CLARITY. BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE STAFF AN OPPORTUNITY, FIRST AND FOREMOST, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE PROPOSED CHANGES AND WHAT DRIVES THEM. AND THEN I KNOW THAT MADAM VICE PRESIDENT WILL HAVE SOME INSIGHT TO PROVIDE TO EVERYBODY. SO WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT? DOCTOR OSBORNE WE HAVE THAT COVERED IN THE SLIDE DECK. SO SCOTT'S PREPARED TO PROCEED AND DO SO IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. YEAH LET'S GO SIR. GOOD. OKAY. LET ME READ THE SLIDES OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT, AND BEFORE I BEGIN WITH A BRIEFING, AND BECAUSE I THINK THE ONLY PERSON THAT WAS HERE AT THE BOARD BACK IN DECEMBER 11 TO 2018 WITH MISS JONES AND MYSELF.

SO I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY READING THE LOCAL OF YEAR 2014 SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE POLICY BACK THEN AND WHY WE MADE THE CHANGES IN YEAR 2018. SO THE LOCAL OF YEAR 2014 STATES THE FOLLOWING. NO EMPLOYEE OTHER THAN THE SUPERINTENDENT, DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT, FINANCIAL CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OR DESIGNEE SHALL BE AUTHORIZED TO SIGN CONTRACTS THAT OBLIGATE THE DISTRICT SPECIFIC AUTHORITY SHALL BE DELEGATED IN WRITING TO ANY DESIGNEE. CONTRACTS.

PURCHASE ORDERS ABOVE 50,000 SHALL REQUIRE APPROVAL BY THE BOARD UNLESS EXEMPTED BY THIS POLICY. THE FOLLOWING PROVISIONS SHALL APPLY TO PURCHASING SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT AND SERVICES ONE. SUPPLIES EQUIPMENT AND SERVICES FROM THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY AND ANY OTHER EDUCATION SERVICE CENTER. APPROVED CONTRACTS MAY BE PURCHASED WITHOUT BOARD APPROVAL. TWO SUPPLIES, EQUIPMENT AND SERVICES FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS. APPROVED CONTRACTS MAY BE PURCHASED WITHOUT BOARD APPROVAL. THREE SUPPLIES, EQUIPMENT, AND SERVICES FROM A COOPERATIVE PURCHASING PROGRAM. APPROVED CONTRACTS MAY BE PURCHASED WITHOUT BOARD APPROVAL. RENEWALS OF CONTRACTS. AGREEMENTS DO NOT REQUIRE APPROVAL IF THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE BOARD, AND THE RENEWAL OPTION WAS INCLUDED IN THE BOARD APPROVED CONTRACT, OR IF THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED, EXTENSIONS PER TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY. FIVE ANY PATENTED OR COPYRIGHT PROTECTED ITEMS THAT ARE ONLY AVAILABLE FROM ONE SOURCE MAY BE PURCHASED WITHOUT SECURING BOARD APPROVAL. IF NO OTHER LIKE ITEMS ARE AVAILABLE

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SO YOU'RE REFERENCING A DOLLAR AMOUNT. YOU'RE NOT REFERENCING WHAT I CALL ITEMS PER SE.

CORRECT. THEY ARE NOT BUDGETED, NOT ALL OF THEM. BUT SOME OF THESE ARE THINGS THAT POP UP DUE TO DAMAGE OR THINGS YOU KNOW, OR REQUIREMENT THAT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. SO MY CONCERN HERE TODAY, AS IT WAS BACK IN 2018, I BELIEVE IT WAS WHEN WE CHANGED. THIS WAS ACCOUNTABILITY IN SOME CONTROL. IT SHOULDN'T WHEN WE'RE SPENDING $5 MILLION, IT SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN WITHIN EIGHT WEEKS WITHOUT THERE BEING SOME PRIOR THOUGHT TO IT. THERE'S NO REASON WHY ANYBODY IN THIS DISTRICT SHOULD BE SPENDING $5 MILLION WITHOUT THERE BEING SOME PRIOR THOUGHT TO IT. AND I KNOW YOU ALL DOING IT. AND THIS IS NOT I'M NOT QUESTIONING YOUR INTEGRITY. I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE STAFF'S INTEGRITY. I'M QUESTIONING WHETHER WE HAVE BOUNDARIES. AND SO DURING THAT VOTE, THERE WERE FOUR PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. MR. LAWLOR, MR. TRUJILLO, MISS WELLS AND MYSELF. AND THAT VOTE PASSED WITH THREE VOTES. ME BEING A NAY. SO NONE OF THOSE MEMBERS ARE ON THIS BOARD ANYMORE. AND I WANT TO

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YOU'RE SAYING THE INTENT. I KNOW HE'S CLEARLY ASKING A POLICY QUESTION, CORRECT, MR. MINTZ? WELL, RIGHT. I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY IF IT'S A $3 MILLION CAP, WHICH VENDOR OR ITEM IS YOUR QUESTION? WELL, IS IT HOW HOW DO WE AGGREGATE THE $3 MILLION? CAN I GO BUY 30 BUSSES? CAN I IS IT IS IT AGGREGATE BY VENDOR? IS IT AN AGGREGATE BY BUDGET LINE ITEM TYPE? IS IT AN AGGREGATE BY SIMILAR PRODUCT IS LIKE HOW ARE WE AGGREGATING THAT $3 MILLION? AND IF WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO FIND THE ANSWER TO THAT. CORRECT.

DEPENDING ON YOUR ALL'S GUIDANCE ON WHAT CHANGES YOU ALL RECOMMEND, WE WOULD HAVE TO WRITE THAT OUT. THE WHAT WE WOULD DISCUSS, WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING IS, YOU KNOW, I'LL USE SAFETY AS AN EXAMPLE. WE SPENT OVER $3 MILLION ON SAFETY, BUT IT WAS ON MULTIPLE PRODUCTS, ALL WITH THE OVERARCHING UMBRELLA OF SCHOOL SAFETY TO DO A CERTAIN TASK. THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'D BE INCLUDING IN THAT YOU BROUGHT UP A GREAT QUESTION. WE WOULD HAVE TO BE VERY PRECISE IN OUR LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE STAYING COMPLIANT, AND WE WOULD BRING THAT RECOMMENDATION BACK IF YOU PROPOSE A CHANGE, MR. MINTZ. OKAY. I THOUGHT I THOUGHT YOU WERE PUSHING MY. NO, NO. I'M GOOD. I THINK THAT'S THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR. AND UNLESS DOCTOR OSBORNE'S WANT TO PUT OUT SOME CLARIFICATION, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT AN AGGREGATE BY VENDOR. SO WE WOULD GO OUT FOR ANY TYPE OF PURCHASE, WHETHER IT'S CURRICULUM OR BUSSES, AND UTILIZE A SPECIFIC VENDOR. WE HAVE A TOTAL CAP OF $100,000, AND THEN WE WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO THAT PARTICULAR PURCHASE WITH THAT VENDOR AT AN AGGREGATE OF 3 MILLION. SO YOU COULD GO BUY YOU COULD SPEND MORE THAN $3 MILLION ON BUSSES. YOU COULD SPEND SIX, $6 MILLION ON BUSSES OR $5 MILLION ON BUSSES, SO LONG AS YOU SPLIT THAT PURCHASE BETWEEN TWO VENDORS, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC IN MY OPINION. THAT WOULD NOT DIFFER FROM OUR APPROACH TO CURRICULUM. FOR EXAMPLE, MATH CURRICULUM AND ONE AREA BY ONE VENDOR. FOR EXAMPLE, I-READY AND CURRICULUM ASSOCIATES WOULD NOT BE ALIGNED AND COMPARED TO THE AGGREGATE TOTAL FOR CARNEGIE, FOR EXAMPLE, OR ANOTHER VENDOR, SPRINGBOARD, THOSE ARE MAINTAINED SEPARATELY WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS POLICY. BUT THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PRODUCTS THAT DO TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THEY'RE NOT TWO SCHOOL BUSSES SOLD BY THE SAME BUS, SOLD BY TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. AND MR.

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THERE IS SOMETHING IN THERE WHERE, IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN MAKE A PURCHASE AND COME BACK AND GET AUTHORIZATION ON THE BACK END. AND I'M SCANNING THE ROOM FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE EYE CONTACT, TO SAY THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT. BUT THAT MAY BE YOU, MR. BARR. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. IT IS CORRECT. BUT YOU MUST BE AN APPROVED VENDOR. YOU MUST BE AN APPROVED VENDOR. THAT IS CORRECT. SO WHEN YOU INITIATE SOMETHING ON AN EMERGENCY SETTING, YOU DID NOT JUST REACH OUT TO ANY VENDOR, IT MUST BE AN APPROVED VENDOR. BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE, DO YOU VIEW THAT AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A PROBLEM? IN THE EVENT WE NEEDED TO DO WE SEE THAT AS BEING A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE? DO WE THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DOABLE, THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH VENDORS WHERE WE COULD ALMOST ADDRESS WINDOWS, ROOFS, OR AT THE MOMENT IT IS NOT AN ISSUE BECAUSE I HAVE MANY VENDORS ON COOPERATIVES THAT PROVIDE ANY TYPE OF REMEDIATION OR EMERGENCY REPAIR, THAT SOME OF THESE VENDORS ARE ALREADY ON A LISTING SOMEWHERE, THAT IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE A CATASTROPHE, THERE ARE VENDORS THAT ARE APPROVED THROUGH COOPERATIVES THAT CAN DO THAT. MADAM CAPITO, MY APOLOGIES. IT'S BACK TO YOU. THAT'S OKAY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION TO MAYBE POSSIBLY HAVE IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE OR HAVE SOME CHANGES IN THIS POLICY. I'M NOT AGAINST ENTERTAINING THOSE. I'M JUST AGAINST IF IT'S GOING TO AFFECT AN EMERGENCY SITUATION LIKE THAT NEEDS TO BE AT THE DISCRETION OF WHOEVER'S IN THAT SEAT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CAMPUSES. AND MY LAST STATEMENT IS JUST THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING PRETTY WELL AND YOU'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB. SO THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. SO AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS THE OPEN ENDEDNESS OF THIS POLICY. IT HAS IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DISTRUST. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THAT. IT HAS THE MERE FACT THAT CONTROLLING THE BUDGET IS PART OF OUR JOB, AND WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF OUR BUDGET OR WHAT EVEN WHAT'S BEING SPENT ON AT $10 MILLION COULD BE SPENT UNDER THIS WITHOUT US EVEN KNOWING THAT THAT WAS A PURCHASE ITEM. $20 MILLION COULD BE SPENT WITHOUT US EVEN KNOWING THAT THIS WAS THERE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO RESTRICTION. IT'S UP 100,000 PER ITEM PER ITEM. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SECURITY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THE CUMULATIVE

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I MEAN, I THINK MR. HECKENBERG CAN MAKE THAT DECISION IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY DECISION. AND IF WE COULD JUST PUT SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE, TOO, THAT WOULD SAY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF IF THE CURRENT, YOU KNOW, CURRENT APPROVED VENDORS LACK THE CAPACITY OR ABILITY TO PROVIDE, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A VERY BAD STORM, WE'RE GOING TO BLOW. AND PLUS ALL OF THOSE OTHER THOSE VENDORS ARE GOING TO BE DOING BUSINESS AROUND THE COMMUNITY THAT AGAIN, AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH KIND OF GIVING THAT TO MR. HECKENBERG TO MAKE THAT DECISION TO LIKE IF HE'S NOT ON THE APPROVED LIST IN AN EMERGENCY AS DEFINED, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN CODE, WE COULD WE CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO TAKE TAKE ANY OF THAT AWAY. BUT MISS JONES IS 100% RIGHT. THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME BUMPERS ON THIS, MR. GILCHRIST. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE BUS SITUATION BECAUSE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW. WHAT IS THAT $3 MILLION CAP KICK IN FOR? BUT LIKE, IF I WANTED TO BUY BUSSES, I COULD, AND IT WAS $100,000 APIECE. I COULD ONLY BUY ENOUGH BUSSES FROM WHOEVER. THE NUMBER OF VENDORS ARE UP TO 3 MILLION. OR I CAN GO AROUND THAT AND SKIRT THAT. IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? IS THAT WRONG? YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE NOT RIGHT IN THAT STATEMENT. IT'S YOU'RE WRONG. IT'S PER VENDOR. SO. SO WE COULD SPEND 3 MILLION WITH INTERNATIONAL BUS. THEN WE COULD TURN AROUND SPEND SPEND 3 MILLION WITH LONGHORN BUS. IS THAT RIGHT, MR. YBARRA? SIR, LET ME READ YOU THE LIST OF THE VENDORS THAT EXCEEDED $3 MILLION. HOLD ON. I JUST I WANT TO GET THAT. I WANT TO GET THAT.

I WANT TO GET THAT. I WANT TO GET THAT. LET LET ME GET THAT. I WANT THAT. INDULGE ME. PLEASE. I JUST WANT THAT ONE ANSWER. AS THE POLICY IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, IF WE AMENDED IT TO GO TO THE $3 MILLION THRESHOLD, COULD KISD GO OUT AND SPEND UP TO $3 MILLION WITH LONGHORN BUS AND THEN TURN AROUND AND SPEND UP TO $3 MILLION WITH BLUEBIRD BUS? SO THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED SPLIT FUNDING, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NOT DO SIMPLY BECAUSE WE'RE REACHING A THRESHOLD OF $3 MILLION. HOLD ON, I THINK I THINK YOU MIGHT BE. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER I'M LOOKING FOR. I WANT TO KNOW BY POLICY. OKAY. CAN YOU DO THAT? TECHNICALLY YOU COULD, BUT LET ME EXPLAIN. OKAY. HOLD ON, HOLD ON. STOP RIGHT THERE. NOT BEING RUDE. DO YOU WANT TO.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO. YES, I HAVE, I HAVE OKAY. IT'S YOUR FLOOR BECAUSE.

AND THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING I HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT IS BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH HERE IS YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO EXCEED A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT WITHOUT COMING BACK TO THIS BOARD ON WHATEVER ITEM IT IS FOR AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM, OR LIKE PURCHASES, LIKE PURCHASES, LIKE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. WE'RE SETTING A CAP. SO YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT COMING BACK TO THE BOARD. IF YOU SET THAT CAP, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO AROUND IT BY SPLITTING IT. SPLIT PURCHASES. NOW YOU'RE SAYING SO YOU'RE CIRCUMVENTING THE DECISION MAKERS BY SPLITTING THE PURCHASES UP BECAUSE YOU COULD DO IT TECHNICALLY. DO WE DO WE THINK YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT? NO, SIR. WE DON'T. BUT WE NEED TO PUT IT IN WRITING THAT YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THE NEXT PERSON BEHIND YOU MAY NOT BE YOU. I'M SORRY, I MAYBE I'M JUST STEPPING OUT OF. OH, YOU'RE YOU'RE FINE. AND I JUST WANT TO DO. AND I'LL GIVE IT TO MADAM VICE PRESIDENT.

BUT I WILL ALSO SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE I ALWAYS SAY YOU PUT POLICY AND WE HAVE TONS OF FEEDBACK. SOMEBODY'S MIC IS ON THIS. I'M SORRY. THAT'S THE AUDIO GUY. I MEAN, BUT YOU PUT GOOD POLICIES IN PLACE WHEN YOU HAVE GOOD PEOPLE IN PLACE, NOT WHEN YOU HAVE BAD PEOPLE IN PLACE, BECAUSE THEN THEY PREVENT THE BAD FROM HAPPENING. THAT'S JUST PIGGYBACKING ON THAT, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. SO I, I WOULD THEN PROPOSE THAT WE PUT A CAP OF 3 MILLION AND NO SPLIT PURCHASES. AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALREADY IN PLACE, HAS ALREADY BEEN IN PLACE, EVEN WHEN WE HAD A $50,000 CAP. SO THAT THAT THAT'S ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF. MR. MR. MINTZ, WOULD YOU SAY THE CAP OF $3 MILLION ON SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR ITEMS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? MADAM CAPITO, YOU WERE

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AND YOU HAVE YOU GET THESE EVERY FRIDAY. YOU GET A REPORT EVER SINCE 2018 THAT SHOWS YOU WHO'S BEEN GETTING MORE THAN $100,000 PER WEEK. SO THOSE REPORTS INDICATE TO YOU WHO'S GETTING THAT MONEY, THOSE THAT ARE REOCCURRING. WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERAPY SERVICES REACHES 3 MILLION. DO I STOP THE SERVICE OR DO WE BRING THAT TO THE BOARD, OR ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW FOR THOSE EXCEPTIONS TO MOVE FORWARD? OKAY, SO EASY, MR. BARR. I THINK THAT WE WOULD KNOW THAT'S COMING BEFORE WE GET THERE. SO IT'S A FALSE DILEMMA TO SAY, WELL, WHAT DO I DO WITH $3 MILLION? CORRECT. WE WOULD WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT HISTORICAL PURCHASE AMOUNTS. AND WE WOULD THEN SAY HISTORICALLY HERE, PURCHASES THAT HAVE GONE OVER 3 MILLION AND WE WOULD SAY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO BRING AN ITEM FORWARD SAYS, HEY, IT WOULD BE CAPPED AT 3 MILLION. BUT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS WE'VE HIT 4.5 MILLION. WE'RE ASKING AUTHORIZATION TO GO UP TO THIS AMOUNT. THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE THINKING ON THAT. AND SCOTT, I GOT YOU I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.

THEN SHE'LL GO TO YOU. DOCTOR OSBORNE I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ONE SCENARIO TO GEORGE'S POINT WHEN WE'RE BEING RENDERED SERVICES AND THEN WE ARE INVOICED. AND THAT IS NOT ON A CONSISTENT OR ONGOING BASIS. THERE ARE SOME SCENARIOS WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO APPROPRIATELY ANTICIPATE THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE AN ANOMALY, NOT A RULE. YES, SIR. SO FIRST TO YOUR POINT, YES, BECAUSE WE KNOW OBVIOUSLY THIS WOULD BE A NEW POLICY, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT INTO IMPLEMENTATION AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ROLL IT OUT, HOW WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE UNDERNEATH IT.

WE WILL GO BACK HISTORICALLY AND LOOK AT THOSE ONES BUDGET EARLIER, YOU KNOW, PLAN FASTER.

SO WE'RE GETTING THOSE APPROVALS BEFORE THOSE THINGS ARE NEEDED FOR THINGS THAT ARE ROUTINE OR COMMON. THAT WOULD BE STEP NUMBER ONE TO ELIMINATE THAT AND FRONTLOAD AS MANY OF THOSE PURCHASES AS WE SEE FIT. THE OTHER PART IS, YOU KNOW, THESE OPEN CONTRACTS, WE WOULD TRACK THE PROGRESS, THE INVOICING, TO LOOK AT THE BURN RATES OF THOSE, TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AT, WHEN WE NEED THE TIMELINE, AND BRING THAT TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL, TO STAY OUT IN FRONT OF IT. AND THEN AS WE DO OUR ANALYSIS, DEPENDING ON THE CHANGES, WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THE ONES THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY GONE OVER THE 3 MILLION CAP. AND IF THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR THAT, BRING IT TO YOU AS A SPECIFIC ITEM. AND ON THAT INSTANCE, AS FOR AN INCREASE OVER THE 3 MILLION. SO WE CAN CONTINUE SERVICES IF THAT'S THE TOPIC AT HAND AND PLAN FOR THAT. SO IT'S WE WILL CHANGE THE WAY WE BUDGET AND PROCESS BASED ON THE RULES THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE WITH THIS POLICY, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE WE STAY OUT IN FRONT OF IT. SO WE'RE PROACTIVE AND NOT REACTIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DISTRICT IS NOT AFFECTED IN ANY WAY. SO I GUESS WHAT MY OVERALL IS, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE BOARD WANTS BOUNDARIES ON THIS 3 MILLION OR SOMETHING TO COME FORWARD ON.

THIS IS JUST THE OBVIOUSLY THE EMERGENCY. OBVIOUSLY ANYTHING WE CAN FRONT LOAD OR THAT IS ALREADY REOCCURRING AND THEN MAYBE SET SOME TYPE OF A SCHEDULE LIKE QUARTERLY SO THAT WE WOULD KNOW FAR IN ADVANCE IF WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS OR SOMETHING SO THAT SERVICES ARE NEVER BEING QUESTIONED TO BE STOPPED OR SOMETHING IS NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, GET DONE BECAUSE OF IT. WE NEED OPERATIONS AND WE NEED CHILDREN'S SERVICES TO CONTINUE REGARDLESS. ANY OTHER FEEDBACK FROM TRUSTEES, MR. RENOIR? ANYTHING? WELL, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED TOO. I'M SORRY. THANKS, BRETT. I HONESTLY, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED. I WAS THINKING THAT. I GOT TO BE BRIEF. I WAS THINKING THAT IN THE IN THE PROCESS OF APPROVING THESE ITEMS AND IN THE PROCESS OF DETERMINING THE NEED, ALL OF THESE THINGS WOULD FALL OUT IN THAT PROCESS, AND WE WOULD ALL KNOW WHO WE'RE BUYING THEM FROM AND HOW MUCH IT WAS GOING TO COST. BUT HONESTLY, NOT I JUST I DON'T HAVE A GRASP OF THAT. SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO MUCH FURTHER WITH THAT. THANKS, BRETT. DOES ANYONE. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. I DO APPRECIATE THAT WE GET TO SEE THOSE LOGS AT THE

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I JUST WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I LOOK AT THAT DOCUMENT, IT IS A TOTAL AMOUNT IS ON THERE FOR THE YEAR I BELIEVE, BECAUSE I KNOW THE GROUPS. I'M I SEE CALLUM BACK THERE. IT'S GOT THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE YEAR AS WELL BECAUSE I, I JUST LOOK AND I SEE WHO'S I MEAN I COULD NAME SOME NAMES RIGHT NOW OF THE PEOPLE I'M GOING LIKE THEY GET REALLY GOOD CHECKS FROM US. AND SO I JUST WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION. IT DOES GIVE A TOTAL RUNNING AMOUNT, WHICH CATLIN'S GIVEN THE NOD BACK THERE. SO TRUSTEES, I THINK WE ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WANT TO SEE SOME TYPE OF BOUNDARY PUT ON. I THINK AS MADAM VICE PRESIDENT IS KIND OF WHO BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, SHE IS OKAY WITH 3 MILLION. ANY ISSUES WITH 3 MILLION BEING PUT IN THE FORM OF A POLICY THAT COMES BACK NEXT YEAR, NEXT WEEK. PARDON ME FOR CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL, MR. GILCHRIST. MR. RAINWATER, I'M GOOD. I'M GOING TO SKIP YOU BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT. OKAY, MR. MINTS, AND I'M SORRY, BUT I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP. LIKE, THIS IS WHY WE GET ELECTED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S THE SCOTT I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT, LIKE, THE SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR ITEMS. AND THEN IF WE COULD EXPAND THE EMERGENCY LANGUAGE TO MISS CAPITO'S POINT THAT IF WE RUN OUT OF APPROVED VENDORS, THEN THAT'S EITHER A SUPERINTENDENT OR A DEPUTY DECISION. AND THEN DO WE WANT, I THINK THE VENDOR VERSUS QUANTITY, THAT'S A SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR $3 MILLION CAP ON A SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR ITEM. GOTCHA. SO TO YOUR POINT, THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT MATH PROGRAMS. THOSE AREN'T SIMILAR BUSSES FROM BLUEBIRD AND FROM LONGHORN. THOSE ARE SIMILAR.

MADAM SECRETARY, I'M GOOD WITH THE 3 MILLION. OKAY. MR. HECKENBERG, DOES THAT PROVIDE ENOUGH DIRECTION FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM TO WORK ON CRAFTING A POLICY FOR CONSIDERATION NEXT WEEK? YES, SIR. WE'LL BRING THAT BACK WITH ADJUSTMENTS AND HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGES TO MAKE SURE THE LANGUAGE IS COMMENSURATE WITH WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR TODAY. OKAY, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW GO TO. I, WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARDS POLICY MANUAL UPDATE 125 AFFECTING LOCAL POLICIES AS LISTED BELOW 1BDAA OFFICERS AND OFFICIALS DUTIES AND REQUIREMENTS OF BOARD OFFICERS TO BDB BOARD, INTERNAL ORGANIZATION BOARD COMMITTEES THREE BDF BOARD. INTERNAL ORGANIZATION ADVISORY COMMITTEES E I MEAN FOUR E ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT FIVE FTE ADMISSION, SCHOOL SAFETY TRANSFERS SIX FEC ATTENDANCE. ATTENDANCE FOR CREDIT. WELCOME, MR. HARPER. MR. PRESIDENT, MIGHT WE TAKE ABOUT A TEN MINUTE COMFORT BREAK BEFORE WE BEGIN HERE? COMING UP ON THREE HOURS. YOU ARE MY BEST FRIEND. BECAUSE I WAS ABOUT I WAS ABOUT TO TURN THE MEETING OVER TO HER. IT IS 11:48 A.M. AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A CAN WE GO FIVE MINUTE COMFORT BREAK? WE'RE GOING TO GO A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL RETURN HERE AT 12:04 P.M. T OKAY. IT'S. 1157. OBVIOUSLY. READ THE TIME WRONG. 11:57 A.M. AND WE'RE COMING BACK FROM A BRIEF RECESS, AND NOW WE WILL GO TO ITEM I, AND I'VE ALREADY STATED IT, SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. HARPER FOR DISCUSSION OF TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARD'S POLICY MANUAL.

UPDATE 125 AFFECTING LOCAL POLICIES THAT I OUTLINED PREVIOUSLY. MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU. AS YOU WILL REMEMBER, OUR POLICY IS DIVIDED INTO LEGAL AND LOCAL POLICIES. LEGAL IS UPDATED BY STATE LAWS WHEN THOSE ARE UPDATED WHETHER STATUTORY OR CASE LAW. AND THEN THE BOARD UPDATES LOCAL POLICY. AND EACH OF THESE ARE BROUGHT REALLY MORE FOR CLARIFICATION, BEGINNING WITH BD. THESE ARE THE SIX DIFFERENT LOCAL POLICIES THAT

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AND SO AGAIN, RATHER THAN CALLING THEM SPECIAL COMMITTEES THEY WILL BE ADVISORY COMMITTEES. AND WE HAVE THAT SEPARATE POLICY. NOW THAT NEW POLICY OF BDF THAT IS NEW LANGUAGE, STATING THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEES ARE MADE UP OF STAFF, PARENTS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, MUCH LIKE WE USE ADVISORY COMMITTEES NOW AND TALKS ABOUT TRANSACTING BUSINESS, THEY'LL ONLY TRANSACT BUSINESS ONLY WITH THE SPECIAL AUTHORITY GRANTED BY THE BOARD. AND THEN ALSO TALKING ABOUT DISSOLUTION OF THOSE WHEN NECESSARY. MOVING KIND OF QUICKLY. I THOUGHT I WOULD GO THROUGH ALL SIX AND THEN COME BACK FOR ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO CHANGE THAT UP TO SO SORRY IF I'M MOVING TOO QUICKLY. LOCAL, JUST CLEARING UP SOME LANGUAGE HERE. PREVIOUSLY THE IT TALKED ABOUT PARTIAL CREDIT, SPECIFICALLY WHEN A STUDENT EARNS A PASSING GRADE AND ONLY HALF OF A COURSE, AND IT PREVIOUSLY SAID COMBINED GRADE OF. AND NOW IT'S JUST BEING MORE CLEAR AND SAYING THE AVERAGE OF THOSE GRADES, WHEN THE AVERAGE OF BOTH HALVES IS LOWER THAN 70.

SO JUST REALLY CLEANING UP LANGUAGE THERE UNDER FTE LOCAL. THIS IS BRINGING A RECOMMENDATION OR REQUIREMENT FROM T AND A UNSAFE SCHOOL CHOICE OPTION GUIDANCE HANDBOOK THAT DIRECTS DISTRICTS TO COLLECT CERTAIN DATA EACH YEAR. AND SO IT'S ADDING BULLYING TO THIS LIST OF ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO COLLECT DATA FOR. SO IT'S JUST AN UPDATE THERE FROM A T UNSAFE SCHOOL CHOICE OPTION GUIDANCE HANDBOOK. THAT'S A MOUTHFUL OF UNSAFE SCHOOL CHOICE OPTION GUIDANCE HANDBOOK. BUT ADDING BULLY IN THERE. SO IT'S CLEARLY DEFINED AS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MUST KEEP TRACK OF THE NUMBER OF PER YEAR. AND THEN OUR FINAL SIX FEC LOCAL IS FOR ATTENDANCE. AND LOOKING AT HERE SPECIFICALLY LANGUAGES REALLY HERE CLEARING THINGS UP, TAKING OUT A PORTION THAT REQUIRED A PRINCIPAL TALKING ABOUT SEAT TIME. IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOW SAYING THAT IS NOT REQUIRED ASSIGNED STUDENT TO ATTEND A SPECIFIED PROGRAM FOR AN AMOUNT OF TIME EQUIVALENT TO A STUDENT'S ABSENCES. SO THESE ARE ATTENDANCE COMMITTEES AND GIVING LANGUAGE THERE TO THE ATTENDANCE COMMITTEES OF HOW TO CREATE AND COMPENSATE FOR STUDENT WHO HAS A NUMBER OF ABSENCES, MORE THAN THE 90% OF DAYS THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE IN CLASSES. SO WHEN THEY ABSENCES OVER THAT, SETTING IT UP HERE, POINTING SPECIFICALLY TO ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS TO FLUSH OUT SOME LANGUAGE HERE. SO AGAIN, CLARIFYING SOME LANGUAGE IN THIS POLICY AS WELL. MR. MINTZ. SO MR. HARPER FEC IS WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. SO THIS HAS ALWAYS BOTHERED ME A LITTLE BIT. THAT AND SO I THINK AS I, AS I WENT, I WENT BACK AND READ IT LAST NIGHT. SO PLEASE TELL ME IF I'M WRONG. WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE TO GO AS LOW AS 75 IF WE SO SAY A STUDENT HAS 65% ATTENDANCE, THEN THERE'S NO THERE'S NO APPEAL PROCESS. CORRECT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO SET IT AT THE FLOOR AT 75. WE COULD SAY IT'S 80 OR 80 5 OR 90 IF WE WANTED TO. RIGHT. SO HERE IT IS. I'M NOT I'M NOT SORRY. I'M JUST I'M ASKING TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING IT. RIGHT. MY UNDERSTANDING HERE IS THE STUDENT FAILS TO SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THE PLAN. OR WHEN A STUDENT'S ATTENDANCE DROPS BELOW 75% OF THE DAYS THE

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STATUTE? I BELIEVE THAT THOSE DISTINCTIONS ARE IN THE STATUTE. JOEY. JOEY, MORE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED YOU TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE SO THE PEOPLE AT HOME. NO, SORRY. THANK YOU.

THAT, MR. MINTZ, THAT THAT LANGUAGE IN THOSE DIVISIONS ARE IN THE STATUTE. OKAY. THIS IS YOUR LOCAL POLICY AND IT'S CITING IT'S COMING FROM STATUTE, BUT THOSE NUMBERS ARE SET IN STATUTE. OKAY. AND THEN AND MAYBE YOU DON'T. YEAH. SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THESE APPEALS ARE GRANTED WHEN THEY WHEN THEY. SO IN THE SECOND TIER I WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU. SO IN THAT BELOW 75% RIGHT. YEAH. IF THEY'RE BELOW 75% OR THEY FAIL TO SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THE PLAN. I JUST KIND OF CURIOUS, ARE WE RUBBER STAMPING THOSE THINGS THROUGH? ARE WE LOOKING AT THEM AGAIN? JUST WHAT I SAID THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING, ITS EXPECTATIONS, IF WE COULD. HECK, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT PUSHED UP TO 85. LIKE LET'S HAVE LET'S HAVE HIGHER EXPECTATIONS OF PEOPLE. QUESTIONS FROM TRUSTEES. ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY, ANYTHING I APOLOGIZE. ANYTHING. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. SO HOW DOES THIS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS ON PAGE. 145. IT'S ONE OF ONE OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW HOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO KEEP UP WITH TELLING YOU WHERE I'M AT ON THIS. IT'S 145 ON MY LITTLE SQUARE UP ON THE TOP. HOW DOES THIS DIFFER FROM OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES? CAN YOU TELL ME THE LETTER POLICY? PDA, ADR, LOCAL? OKAY, SO WE HAVE A BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE THAT WE APPROVED. AND DOES THIS CHANGE THAT I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. THIS IS POLICY. SO I, I KNOW OUTSIDE COUNSEL WAS USED TO UPDATE THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT AND COMPARE AND COME BACK AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC YOU JUST WANT TO KNOW IN GENERAL IF THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS AND WHAT WE'VE ADOPTED LOCALLY? CORRECT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. BECAUSE I DO SEE SOME I MEAN AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT OFFLINE. BUT BUT YES, I WOULD WANT TO SEE HOW IT COMPARES. OKAY. MADAM CAPITO JOEY I'M SORRY. YOU MAY HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE MIC. AND FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S JOEY MOORE, OUR BOARD COUNSEL. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THIS IS FOR BOTH OF YOU. BUT I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO COME RUNNING OVER. SO I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION. AND MAYBE I MISUNDERSTAND THIS. I THOUGHT THE STATUE WAS. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. I THOUGHT THE STATUE WAS 75 TO 90%, BUT THE 75 WAS THE LOWEST THAT A BOARD COULD ADOPT. AND I THOUGHT THE BOARD COULD ADOPT IF WE WANTED TO SAY THAT WE WANTED 80 OR 85. I MEAN, I THINK THIS BOARD IS VERY DILIGENT THAT WE THINK ATTENDANCE IS IMPORTANT. AND SO I THOUGHT WE COULD ADJUST THAT. I JUST THOUGHT WE COULDN'T GO BELOW 75. AND THE EXPECTATION CAN GO OVER 90. IS THAT NOT TRUE? THE NUMBERS I GUESS IF YOU'RE ASKING IF THE BOARD CAN RAISE THAT, THE STATUTE IS 2509

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THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. HARPER? EVERYTHING'S GOOD. GUIDANCE. ALL RIGHT, SIR, I WILL BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK. THANK YOU. AND SO, SINCE THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR DISCUSSION, THAT WILL NOT BE A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, BECAUSE THERE'LL BE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DISCOVERED IN YOUR YOUR RESEARCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'RE NOW GOING TO GO TO J WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF FUTURE BOARD MEETING AGENDAS AND TRUSTEE REMARKS. DOCTOR OSBORNE THANK YOU SIR. BEFORE I GET STARTED ON THE AUGUST 12TH BOARD MEETING AGENDA, I WANT TO FIRST WELCOME BACK OUR TEACHERS AND OUR STAFF. THE FIRST DAY OF IN-SERVICE IS ONE OF THE MOST INCREDIBLE DAYS OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. AND THERE WERE REALLY GREAT THINGS AROUND COLLABORATION, ENERGY AND EMPHASIS ON EXCELLENCE ACROSS ALL OF OUR 50 PLUS CAMPUSES. SO THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF. WITH THAT IN MIND, I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE LEADERSHIP TEAMS THAT MOBILIZED ALL OF THE OPERATIONAL TRAINING THAT WE DID THROUGH THE SUMMER TO BE READY ON DAY ONE WITH OUR CAMPUS PROCESSES. ALL OF THAT LOOKED FANTASTIC AND PLUG IN ON FACEBOOK IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE GREAT THINGS GOING ON. AS WE LOOK AT AUGUST 12TH AGENDA, WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION AND FOR INFORMATION. I'LL BE PROVIDING A SUPERINTENDENT REPORT AND LETTING FAMILIES KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT AND THE THINGS THAT TEACHERS HAVE WORKED ON AND WORKED ON IN IN SERVICE THAT WILL LAUNCH THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL. MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS THREE A, B, C, D AND E WILL MOVE TO CONSENT UNLESS OTHERWISE ADVISED. AND WE HAVE NOTED ALREADY SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WON'T BE ON CONSENT. SO LOOKING AT ITEM FOUR, WE'LL BRING SOME STANDARD ACTION ITEMS FORWARD. BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT FOR E! WE ARE BRINGING SOME PROPOSED UPDATES TO OUR SUBSTITUTE PLAY PAY PLAN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH S, WHO OFFERS OUR SERVICES AND MANAGES THE PROGRAM FOR SUBSTITUTES, WHICH WE'LL HEAR FROM MR. BAKER AND THE HR TEAM, IS ABOUT ADJUSTMENTS AND PAY RELATED TO THE LENGTH OF TIME THOSE SUBSTITUTES HAVE SERVED OR THEIR TIER OF QUALIFICATIONS. ITEM FOUR F, G AND H YOU HEARD ABOUT TODAY AND THEY'LL COME BACK FOR CONSIDERATION. LOOKING AT ITEM FOUR, I, J AND K, DOCTOR BUCKLEY WILL BE PRESENTING ON LOCAL POLICY IN WHICH WE'VE ALREADY MADE DECISIONS ABOUT OR THE BOARD'S ALREADY MADE DECISIONS ABOUT ONE OF THOSE BEING OUR HOME SCHOOL ENGAGEMENT IN U.I.L. AND THE BOARD HAS OPTED THAT WE WILL NOT PROCEED WITH THAT, THAT IS ADMISSIONS AND STUDENT ACTIVITIES, AND THEN WE'LL BE UPDATING OR LOOKING TO UPDATE OUR LOCAL POLICY IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE NEW CELL PHONE LAW ITEMS FOUR, L, M, N AND O WILL BE COMING BACK WITH ALL THINGS BUDGET AND THEN MOVING ON TO INFORMATION ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION. WE'RE GOING TO BRING A PRESENTATION RELATED TO D, D, E, P OR ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM, WHERE WE WILL DISCUSS OUR PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO SAFETY, SECURITY, AND THE EMPHASIS ON STRUCTURE FOR STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING OVER TO DIEPPE. IN ADDITION TO THE SUPPORTS THAT WE HAVE THAT MITIGATE THEIR CHANCES FOR COMING BACK, AND THEN THAT IS GOING TO CLOSE UP THE THINGS THAT WE'LL COVER IN CLOSED SESSION AND THEN CLOSED SESSION. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AGENDA, CONCERNS, FEEDBACK. EVERYBODY'S GOOD, MR. MINTZ. JUST I SEE DIEPPE BACK IN THERE. I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT. IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT I'M GLAD IT'S FINALLY MADE ITS WAY BACK. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SUMMER SCHOOL NOW PLEASE.

THANK YOU. YEAH, BUT I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT TO. IS IT OKAY IF WE GET THROUGH BUDGET OR DO YOU WANT TO SEE IT? THAT'S FINE. WHAT I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS GET SLOW ROLLED AND THEN WE'RE IN EXECUTION PHASE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN EXECUTION PHASE OR PLANNING PHASE STARTS FOR THAT, BUT I WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THAT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR CLARIFICATION SO THE STAFF UNDERSTANDS YOU WANT AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED AND YOU

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IS THAT FAIR ENOUGH? YES, SIR. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE, DOCTOR OSBORNE? ALL RIGHT. TRUSTEE REMARKS WE'RE GOING TO START WITH MADAM CAPITO. I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL THE STAFF TODAY FOR ALL THE PRESENTATIONS. THESE ARE HARD TIMES OF BUDGETS AND CODE OF CONDUCT AND ALL THE POLICIES AND THINGS. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, MR. MINTZ. AGAIN, I WANT TO COME BACK TO WHERE I STARTED TODAY. THIS IS EXPECTATIONS. WE ARE GOING INTO A NEW SCHOOL YEAR.

THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO SET WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE. IF WE DON'T ENFORCE OUR OWN RULES, THAT'S THAT'S NO EXPECTATION AT ALL. AND ALL THAT TELLS EVERYBODY PARENTS, CHILDREN, STAFF IS THAT THE RULES AREN'T THE RULES. AND WE HAVE GOT TO SET. WE'VE GOT TO START SETTING AND ENFORCING THOSE THINGS. IT'S BEHAVIOR. IT'S ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE LINKED. FIXING THE LITTLE BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS IS GOING TO FIX A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS.

IMPLEMENTING PROCESSES AND PROGRAMS THAT THIS BOARD AND THIS, THESE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR WITH FIDELITY IS ALL GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT. WE'RE GIVING YOU TOOLS. WE WANT YOU TO USE THE TOOLS IF THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THE TOOLS, BRING US THE FEEDBACK. BUT WE'VE GOT TO STICK TO OUR OWN RULES. THANK YOU SIR. MADAM SECRETARY, I JUST WANT TO BRAG ON THE DISTRICT AND THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN OVER THE WEEKEND WITH THE BACK TO SCHOOL RALLY IN DOUBLE ACP. I REALLY APPRECIATED SEEING ALL THE CAMPUS LEADERSHIP DEPARTMENTS REPRESENTED PARENTS, BABIES AND STROLLERS AND THE HEAT WAS ON. BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AT THAT EVENT. AND THEN LATER AT THE KISD EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FAIR. I REALLY ENJOYED SEEING THAT PROCESS IN ACTION. SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE UTILIZING EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT AND COMMUNICATE AND GET THINGS DONE EARLY. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. MR. GILCHRIST. MR. RAINWATER. IN THE CONTEXT OF MOVING FORWARD TO HIRING A NEW SUPERINTENDENT, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT WE AS A BOARD KNOW HOW WE WANT THAT NEW SUPERINTENDENT TO LOOK. AND I THINK THE BEST SOURCE OF INFORMATION FOR US TO GLEAN FROM IS OUR SEATED STAFF, WHO HAVE RECENTLY BEEN THROUGH IN-SERVICES FOR A FULL WEEK, I GUESS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT TRAINING. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THINGS THOSE TRAININGS ISSUES APPROACHED, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF'S RESPONSE TO THAT TRAINING IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE DEVELOP A MODEL OR A LOOK FOR THE INCOMING SUPERINTENDENT. AND ALSO TO ADD TO THAT. SO WE WOULD KNOW WHAT KINDS OF THINGS ARE HAPPENING WITH OUR CENTRAL STAFF TO DO WHAT MR. MINX TALKS ABOUT REPEATEDLY, ABOUT THE EXPECTATIONS AND THE CULTURE OF OUR DISTRICT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THIS GAME, THEN LET'S GET IN THE GAME. IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT, THEN I DON'T WANT TO PLAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BRETT. KIND OF. SORT OF. BUT I'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO GET A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION FROM YOU. BUT I'M IN THE BALLPARK, I THINK, AND I THINK I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF GREG COOK FROM GIBSON WOULD BE THE GUY. AND I DON'T WANT MILES OF STUFF. I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS WAS GOOD. THIS WAS REALLY HORRIBLE AND THIS HELPED ME AND THIS DIDN'T HELP ME. AND THESE THINGS THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT WEEK PROVIDED ME SOME GREAT INFORMATION UPON WHICH I CAN

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YES, SIR, I THINK BUT I DON'T KNOW A THING ABOUT OKAY. IF HE DOES THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. JUST THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR IS ALWAYS EXCITING.

IT'S AS EXCITING AS IT IS THE LAST DAY OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. AND SO AS A PARENT, YOU CAN'T WAIT TO GET THOSE KIDS BACK IN SCHOOL. BUT THEN AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, YOU'RE LIKE, OH, I JUST NEED A BREAK. SO YOU WANT THOSE KIDS TO COME HOME. BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE TO OUR PARENTS OUT THERE IS THAT WE, AS A DISTRICT, WANT TO BE THE BEST THAT WE CAN BE FOR THEIR CHILDREN, AND WE WANT TO HAVE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM, BUT WE NEED THEIR HELP. WE REALLY NEED THEIR HELP. SO PLEASE WORK WITH YOUR CHILDREN. GIVE THEM THEIR GIVE.

GO OVER THE CODE OF CONDUCT BOOK WITH THEM. TELL THEM WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE AND PLEASE HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND CHECK THEIR BOOK BAG BEFORE YOU SEND THEM OUT THE DOOR SO THAT THEY'RE NOT BRINGING SHOW AND TELL ITEMS TO SCHOOL THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE BRINGING. AND HELP US HELP YOUR CHILDREN AND TO THE STAFF. WELCOME BACK. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ALL LEANING FORWARD IN THE FOXHOLE, AS WE USED TO SAY IN THE ARMY, AND THAT YOU'LL DO YOUR BEST. AND GOING BACK TO WHAT MR. MARVIN RAINWATER SAID ABOUT THE PRINCIPALS AND THE TEACHERS HAVING TO HAVE SOME DISCRETION ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR STUDENTS. I GET IT. THE POLICE OFFICER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WHO MAY STOP ME FOR SPEEDING MAY GIVE ME A WARNING, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THEY IF THAT'S THE CASE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M GOING TO BE MORE CAUTIOUS THE SECOND TIME I USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE, MR. RAINWATER. SO. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE WITH OUR CODE OF CONDUCT AND WITH OUR OPERATING PROCEDURES, IS THAT WE ALL THERE IS ALWAYS A BUFFER ZONE IN THERE. BUT WHERE DO YOU TAKE THAT BUFFER ZONE AND WHERE DO YOU STOP AT IT. SO BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR WHAT ALL YOU THANK EVERYONE FOR WHAT YOU DO. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR. THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST SAY TO EVERYONE WHO RECEIVES A CHECK FROM KILLEEN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT EVERY DAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE A HERO. AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT, ASK ME, HOW COME I REMEMBER WHO MISS MCDADE IS? WHO IS MY CAFETERIA WORKER AT KILLEEN HIGH SCHOOL? HOW DO I REMEMBER WHO MISS WILSON WAS? WHO WAS MY MATH TEACHER AT 10TH GRADE AT KILLEEN HIGH SCHOOL? HOW DO I REMEMBER MISS YOUNGBLOOD, WHO WAS THE SCIENCE TEACHER AT MAYNARD? AND I REMEMBER MISS HARPER, WHO WAS FOURTH GRADE, MR. ELLIOTT, WHO WAS FIFTH GRADE, BECAUSE EVERY DAY THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TO BE A HERO. AND THEY WERE A HERO TO ME. AND SO SOME OF THEM ARE CUSTODIANS, SOME OF THEM ARE CAFETERIA WORKERS, SOME OF THEM ARE AIDES, TEACHERS, PRINCIPALS. EVERY DAY, REMEMBER, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE A HERO. AND I SAY, GO, BE GREAT. WE APPRECIATE YOU. I'VE GOT A KID IN THE SYSTEM. THEY NEED YOU. THEY WANT YOU AND GO BE WHO YOU CAN BE. WE SUPPORT YOU. THAT'S ALL I GOT. MADAM SUPERINTENDENT, ANY FINAL

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NO VOTING WILL TAKE PLACE IN CLOSED SESSION, ANY ACTION THE BOARD WISHES TO TAKE AS A RESULT OF THESE DISCUSSIONS IN CLOSED SESSION WILL TAKE PLACE AFTER THE BOARD RECONVENES IN THE OPEN MEETING. THE TIME IS NOW 1223. PM THE TIME IS NOW 103. PM AND WE

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